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AVBunyan · Post by **AVBunyan** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:39 pm

Your thoughts - you folks are pretty savy on this subject and have been a help to me before so...

Recently downloaded the Masterverb demo - nice interface - sounds decent - anybody use it - what do you think - is it worth $99?

I presently am learning to use Pantheon with Producer and have Sir and thinking about the Pristine Light and then I came across Masterverb...

Your thoughts -
Thanks in advance

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:08 pm

HI

I purchased the whole Wave Arts bundle a while back, I find the reverb to be very nice - I also use the Silverspike R2 link: http://www.silverspike.com/ amongst others - IMO these are about as good as you can get for natural sounding reverbs at the price - if you want more ambience/special fx type reverbs then Pristine space will be a better bet though.

Flipper.

AVBunyan · Post by **AVBunyan** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:33 pm

original flipper wrote:HI

I purchased the whole Wave Arts bundle a while back, I find the reverb to be very nice - I also use the Silverspike R2 link: http://www.silverspike.com/ amongst others - IMO these are about as good as you can get for natural sounding reverbs at the price - if you want more ambience/special fx type reverbs then Pristine space will be a better bet though.

Flipper.

Thanks Flipper - I'm in the R2 Demo now - nice sounds - A lot of parameters - the Masterverb seems easier to a novice like myself.

I'm learning that all reverbs have their "personality" and "place".

How do you like the "impulses" like Sir and Pristine?

But you are right - for natural Reverbs the Masterverb and R2 seem to be more of what I'm leaning towards.

Tough question - which do you like more and use more - the Masterverb or the R2?

Thanks again

multree · Post by **multree** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:36 pm

well there are three more verbs you need to consider... well actually two...

the princeton stereo room (which is available for $99 for a couple of days) and the WizooVerb W2 which is very cool..... it sounds really real

monsterbeetle · Post by **monsterbeetle** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:42 pm

I tried the demo a while ago and noticed a problem on the tail of the reverb : for long verbs, the tail gets modulated out of tune (if you play a single guitar note and then mute it and listen to the remaining reverb tail, its frequency is gradually shifted up.). At that time I emailed wavearts about this and they answered that this was indeed how they modulated the tail to avoid ringing artifacts. It kept me away from it, because the artifact was too obvious. Have a careful listen before you take the plunge.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 8:18 pm

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mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:00 pm

Oh, ttoz, how do really feel about it?

Did you keep your 2016? Or are you pure logic now?

greendoor · Post by **greendoor** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:31 am

I just downloaded the demo, and have to agree with ttoz that it's crap and grainy. It depends on what you want, where you will be using it, etc. Reverb is basically about virtual spaces, and it would be silly to suggest that there is only one perfect ideal of a virtual space. In the real world, there are some ugly sounding spaces. Personally, I like my reverbs to sound nice, rather than real. Often a delay can sound better than a reverb, which I think explains why sometimes people can like the sound of grainy, lumpy, sproing reverbs - because they are using them on material that could probably sound even better with a delay (especially sync'd to tempo). I have a lot of time for the AcousticArts reverb - wonderful interface, very versatile. For most other VST reverbs, I think the donation-ware Magnus Ambiance is better than most. SIR is a convolution reverb - it plays samples of reverb, and is therefore extremly good if you have extremely good samples. Worth having, definately, since it's free. The commercial ones aren't significantly better.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 2:53 am

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kilroy · Post by **kilroy** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:05 am

ttoz wrote:Wavearts, R66, Roomverb2, Wizooverb, now THESE are reverbs.

Pffft...those aren't reverbs...

*This* is a reverb.

scam_artist · Post by **scam_artist** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:24 am

ttoz wrote:masterverb is crap and grainy.

i own MasterVerb, and I have to agree, it does sound grainy. I only occasionally use it these days. It doesn't sound crap, but it doesn't sound brilliant either

kylen · Post by **kylen** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:43 am

ttoz wrote: ...Princeton yes I am keeping it

This is BIG news...

I picked that one up myself! I think the Wave Arts is on sale right now for $99 but if folks think it's outdated then there ya go. But that's only part of the picture, I'm using Wave Arts Panorama to do early reflections and that thing is a gas - left, right, top, bottom, front, rear positioning with material selections and grtf, binaural features. But I don't think that one is on sale right now...

I think the WA surround reverb does early reflections also but not as controllable - I was looking at that one also. I wanted to have a different choice from the impulse reverbs like SIR and Pristine Space that I have. Both of those can do early reflections and reverberation and sound great. I'm just picking up a few reverbs now to keep my dozens of compressors and limiters and eqs company - geesh it takes a while to visit all the tools at our disposal - yes?

pavvel · Post by **pavvel** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:37 am

kilroy wrote:
ttoz wrote:Wavearts, R66, Roomverb2, Wizooverb, now THESE are reverbs.
Pffft...those aren't reverbs...

*This* is a reverb.

No it's not it's a picture of some tc electronic equipment

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:06 am

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multree · Post by **multree** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:35 am

ttoz wrote:Princeton, Wavearts, R66, Roomverb2, Wizooverb, now THESE are reverbs.

so what's your point again

Wave Arts Masterverb - Anybody use it?