DSP Discovery 2 vs Nordlead 2 truth??
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- KVRist
- 252 posts since 18 Jun, 2001 from UK and NY
No its not true.
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- KVRAF
- 6241 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
let`s say it like this:--SYNTH-- wrote:Is that truth that DSP Discovery 2 sounds ecxactly the same as nordlead 2 ???
If this is truth im gonna forget about nord!!! hehehe
CYA
one can hear, what disco dsp means
don`t get me wrong, it sounds rather good, but it doesn`t sound like a nordlead 2.
1. the fm synthesis doesnt sound similar, allthough exactly that is what still is nearest in the discovery compared to the nordlead.
2. the filters sound way smoother and thin out the signal very much in discovery.
it`s also not a bad thing, but the "terrible" filter a big part of the nordlead sounding so unique, and so you will never reach this direct hardness the nordlead mostly provides.
3. the saturation in the filter of the nord sounds way better.
4. and the main thing:
it still could have been the synth i`d buy and beeing one of my favourites, if it would use at least 50% less cpu, as the cpu usage is way too high.
though i guess there`s no choice, because of the fm might need a lot of oversampling to sound good. anyway, that`s the biggest issue to me.
damn, sometimes i slightly regret that i sold my nords ...
my coins in here ....
regards,
brok landers
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brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
- KVRAF
- 19801 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Looking at Discovery as a Nord emulator is missing the point. Try the patches found here as an example:
http://www.freewebs.com/teksonik/newsynthpatches.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/teksonik/newsynthpatches.htm
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 28 Jan, 2004 from Da Nang, Vietnam
I don't really understand this fascination with Nord sounds anyway. I currently have a G2 and a NL3 and, while I think their interfaces are brilliant, their sound is pretty vanilla. Duplicating their interfaces in software makes no sense at all because it's their hands-on appeal that makes them interesting.
I truly look forward to the day when everyone gets bored enough with these literal hardware emulations to give them up for good.
Both Nords will be for sale here pretty shortly.
I truly look forward to the day when everyone gets bored enough with these literal hardware emulations to give them up for good.
Both Nords will be for sale here pretty shortly.
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- Banned
- 717 posts since 18 Feb, 2004
i think so. ive played with the nordlead 2 numerous times in guitar center and then tryed the old discovery demo then synth1 then the new discovery demo then synth1 imo the discovery sounds NOTHING like the synth its supose to emulate. however in defence of disco dsp as far as i know he didnt design discovery as a nordlead 2 emulator in the first place nor did he ever claim it to sound like one. nowwhere in the kvr discovery specs does it say anything about discovery being a nordlead 2 emulation it strictly says, Discovery is a virtual analog synthesizer emulation for VST hosts featuring multi-layering, a morphing engine, high quality sound, and a simple interface.ouroboros wrote:the correct answer is Synth1.
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however, ichro toda says right on the first page of his website that synth1 was DESIGNED as a nordlead 2 emulation. imo synth1 sounds very much like a nordlead 2 and when i play it i feel i am infact almost playing a nordlead 2 and when i use the nordlead 2 patches made for synth1 i swear i almost cant tell the difference. however ALOT of people LOVE discovery and think it very much sounds like a nord lead2. use your ears. if YOU think it sounds like a nordlead 2 or you just love the sound of discovery then thats all that realy matters.
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- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 28 Jan, 2004 from Da Nang, Vietnam
So why does it load NL2 sysex then?hitman8081 wrote:in defence of disco dsp as far as i know he didnt design discovery as a nordlead 2 emulator in the first place nor did he ever claim it to sound like one.
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 23 Jul, 2001 from Jersey Is Where America's At
Similar enough architecture to approximate patches without necessarily trying to emulate the original?
I'm sorry this post wasn't about techno.
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- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 28 Jan, 2004 from Da Nang, Vietnam
Oh come on. It even shipped with a Nord Lead skin before Clavia made them stop.Funkybot wrote:Similar enough architecture to approximate patches without necessarily trying to emulate the original?
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- KVRist
- 472 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from Alhambra, CA
I've attended several Stereolab gigs over the years. And early on, when they were using their little Moogs and Farfisa's and Vox's, the sounds were very warm and fat and full.
Now that they play Nords instead of the analogue stuff, the sound is definitely thinner. They don't sound bad by any means, though.
Now that they play Nords instead of the analogue stuff, the sound is definitely thinner. They don't sound bad by any means, though.
- KVRian
- 1202 posts since 8 May, 2003 from Munich
I use a G2 and I use discovery. Comparing the sound between nordlead setups on the G2 and the discovery, the sound is obviously not the same when trying to reproduce the same patch in both.
I'm not really baking my noodle about that, though. I use any instrument I have for it's timbre, little details unique to each of them. You can do similar sounds in a lot of synths. Some just let you go further into a direction emphasizing a sound's character than the other synths in the arsenal do. Then that synth gets used for that particular sound.
I'd stop worrying about emulations. In the end it doesn't matter which instrument a musical sound comes from as long as it serves it's purpose well in context.
I'm not really baking my noodle about that, though. I use any instrument I have for it's timbre, little details unique to each of them. You can do similar sounds in a lot of synths. Some just let you go further into a direction emphasizing a sound's character than the other synths in the arsenal do. Then that synth gets used for that particular sound.
I'd stop worrying about emulations. In the end it doesn't matter which instrument a musical sound comes from as long as it serves it's purpose well in context.
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- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 28 Jan, 2004 from Da Nang, Vietnam
I agree. The Nord sound is definitely very clean and "digital". Personally I'm not that fond of it even though I think their interface design is pure genius. It will be interesting to see what they've got up their sleeves next, especially with software instruments maturing so quickly. I suspect they're going to have to follow Access along the TI path if they want to compete.Cheeso wrote:I've attended several Stereolab gigs over the years. And early on, when they were using their little Moogs and Farfisa's and Vox's, the sounds were very warm and fat and full.
Now that they play Nords instead of the analogue stuff, the sound is definitely thinner. They don't sound bad by any means, though.
