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electro · Post by **electro** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:07 pm

THIS IS ONLY ABOUT THE LEXICON SOUND.

What plug (Native or DSP) comes closest to sounding like a high end Lexicon?

OMU · Post by **OMU** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:15 pm

ONLY any convolution based reverb loaded with LEXICON impulses.

electro · Post by **electro** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:31 pm

Besides Convolution. I am talking about regular plugins run by algorithims and not impulses.

No name · Post by **No name** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:32 pm

Let me know when you find it.

OMU · Post by **OMU** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:32 pm

there is actually a lexicon dx plugin, but i think you can have it only with their omega usb audio interface. but i heard it's crap.

blaster78 · Post by **blaster78** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:48 pm

mine

electro · Post by **electro** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:49 pm

No name wrote:Let me know when you find it.

but I said "comes closest to"

blaster78 · Post by **blaster78** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:51 pm

what exactly is the "high end lexicon sound", why is it so important and if so why not use a convoloution reverb.

incidently, i have the lexicon pantheon dx (came with sonar) and i use it all the time. whether its "high end" enough for you tho.....

brianbrian · Post by **brianbrian** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:27 am

P100/A100/I100 for Creamware cards. Sounds pretty much exactly like a PCM91.

The upcoming CSR should be excellent as well, since the same developer is programming it (or at least providing the algorithms).

OMU · Post by **OMU** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:29 am

brianbrian wrote:P100/A100/I100 for Creamware cards. Sounds pretty much exactly like a PCM91.

The upcoming CSR should be excellent as well, since the same developer is programming it (or at least providing the algorithms).

what's that?

No name · Post by **No name** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:07 am

electro wrote:
No name wrote:Let me know when you find it.
but I said "comes closest to"

Come to think of it, I heard a few people saying that Arts acoustic Reverb comes closest (though I cannot back that statement up, as i've never used it myself). Might have just been hype though.

greendoor · Post by **greendoor** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:18 am

The "magic" of Lexicon is largely in the marketing brand name, and their history. What is the "Lexicon" sound? If you ask me, each of their models sounds hugely different, with not a great deal in common. Grab a copy of SIR, and a bunch of impulses. You should start to get an idea of the various models, PCM60, PCM70, PCM80, etc. What are you looking for? That grainy '80's sound that was so excellent for roughing up drums? Or the smoother tails that suit ambiant music? I think the ArtsAcoustic is a fantastic reverb in it's own right, and is extremely versatile and could certainly be the only reverb you need. But if you are like me, you will always be looking for more reverb flavours. In my opinion, being very general, I associate Lexicon with the big, overtly artificial reverb sounds. I think the SonicFlavours R66 is capable of Lexicon-ish sounds, but is very hard to program. I think PSP Easyverb is capable of similar sounds and well worth a look at.

friteuse · Post by **friteuse** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:15 am

greendor is right. I own a PCM91 for years now and thought, this would be enough "Lexicon" Sound for me. Then, one day, I had the chance to get a 960L for a few days into my studio and to test it in detail. Result: it sounds very good, but very different to the PCM91. Though, the differences aren't as huge as the difference to another brand, like TC, so I think it is possible to speak of a "typicall Lexicon Sound".
(However, in my opinion the 960L is a bit like the R66 - you get that one big reverb and that's all. I was quiet disapointed from the 960L because of this limitation...)

Ok, back to topic, if you want that sound, go and buy a lexicon

If you want to get it as close as possible, take a convolution reverb.

The algorithmic reverbs are not intended to imitate lexicon - thanks god! They often don't sound as worse as some people say. There are some that sound very amazing, but in a different way than lexicon. It's a matter of your taste, so you should spend some time on trying them out...

pitchdrifter · Post by **pitchdrifter** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:22 am

friteuse wrote:(However, in my opinion the 960L is a bit like the R66 - you get that one big reverb and that's all. I was quiet disapointed from the 960L because of this limitation...)

What do you mean by 'one big reverb'?

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 10:32 am

friteuse wrote: The algorithmic reverbs are not intended to imitate lexicon - thanks god! They often don't sound as worse as some people say. There are some that sound very amazing, but in a different way than lexicon. It's a matter of your taste, so you should spend some time on trying them out...

I quite agree, there is no point in always imitating hardware (even vintage hardware). I want good sound and easy use. well friteuse, which (algorithmic) reverbs do you think fall into that category?

best, akj

The Magic Reverb Plug