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l0gic0 · Post by **l0gic0** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:28 pm

hi all,

i searched the net but didnt find something.

I need a simple ADSR (envelope) plugin which follows incoming AUDIO not midi.

thanks in advance

Branis · Post by **Branis** » Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:47 pm

There's Digitalfishphones Dominion. It's not really ADSR, but AS + some extras. It's freeware and you can download it from www.digitalfishphones.com

EDIT: I mistyped the link

spacedad · Post by **spacedad** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:35 am

http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/
or
http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/miditools/
maybe?

l0gic0 · Post by **l0gic0** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:56 am

nah. thanks so far.

but this nDC is MIDI i need one for audio only.

A simple ADSR envelope plugin, triggered with AUDIO.(not like ndc one triggered with midi.)

hopefully someone know some like this.

SleepyP · Post by **SleepyP** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:50 am

what do you mean? where does the output from the envelope go? what does it modulate?

luka2807 · Post by **luka2807** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:37 am

to jump in,

i too am looking for adsr vst effect. i would like to increase attack time of my guitar sound. you know, pluck a string and get a sound with slow attack time like violine or something...
i tried dominion but it seems that its attack time is not long enough for this purpose. so i'm still looking.

setup looks something like this
guitar - ampsim - adsr effect

MadPsyance · Post by **MadPsyance** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:07 pm

Seems like you're talking about a compressor...which is like an amplitude envelope. When you say "increase attack time of my guitar" do you meen like speeding it up and increasing it's pitch? What are you trying to modulate? I don't get it.

l0gic0 · Post by **l0gic0** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:12 pm

i simply want to manipulate AUDIO with ADSR feature.

its better than a gate. see, i have a channel full of effects but its boost to much on the end of a sample so i need to cut it. i tried it with resampling but than dynamics and mix is lost. i tried mda envelope, it nearly goes what i need.

thanks

SleepyP · Post by **SleepyP** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:46 pm

he means he wants to modulate the volume of the signal passing through the effect, with the envelope being triggered by some sort of peak-detection mechanism. these guys just don't know how to express themselves cuz it seems too obvious

you know, my old DOD Tec-4 guitar box had a preset in the noise gate to do that kinda thing. i suspect you need to look for noisegates that have an "attack" control.
oddly enough, i was thinking about making an audio-triggered envelope which generates MIDI CC.

THK · Post by **THK** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:46 pm

l0gic0 wrote:i simply want to manipulate AUDIO with ADSR feature.

its better than a gate. see, i have a channel full of effects but its boost to much on the end of a sample so i need to cut it. i tried it with resampling but than dynamics and mix is lost. i tried mda envelope, it nearly goes what i need.

thanks

You can do exactly that with NDC´s Midi ADSR.
http://www.niallmoody.com/ndcplugs/midiadsr.htm

Run your audio file through this plugin. To activate it, you have to send a midi note signal to Midi ADSR. The envelope will be applied when and as long as a note is sent to it. You will need a host, which is capable of sending midi to plugins though.

Frippertronix · Post by **Frippertronix** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:19 pm

The guitar volume thing he's talking about is standard on a number of guitar multi effects boxes. There may be a vst version of one, but I'm not aware of it.

l0gic0 · Post by **l0gic0** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:55 am

well i'm sorry. i'm not that good in english.

i will try this thing with ndc. thanks for the advice.

greendoor · Post by **greendoor** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:34 am

I can think of some very good applications for an Audio Triggered ADSR. It should be easy to make - just an Amp controlled by an ADSR envelope. A threshold would be necessary to set for the purpose of triggering - with some logic to decide when to 'keyoff'. The sort of application I would use it for would be reverb. A boring reverb tail could be give some shape. (Inverse ADSR would be a good option).

luka2807 · Post by **luka2807** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:58 am

i tried to achive alow attack "violine-like" sound using almost every gate listed here on kvr, but nothing seems to work well. it looks trivial to me, but there is obviously a problem with implementation.

for guitar players:
this is equivavalent to changing volume pot position while playing overdriven amp. mark knopfler use this technique a lot. First pluck a string with volume pot in 0 position, and then he slowly increases the volume on volume pot. if you have good "organic" amp, you will get you guitar sounding like a synth. of course, in this case, with this adsr vst there is no way to control the volume in real time, but thats not what I am looking for. I would be more than happy to set up adsr envelope and play my guitar like it is somekind of synth pad or violine with slow attack time.

hope i'm not hijacking this thread, seems to me we are looking for the same thing

cheers

cimoc · Post by **cimoc** » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:13 am

Try an ebow

Simple ADSR VST?