can't control bass with freeware (or can I?)

[_starcraft_]

okay i have a problem with offbeat dance bass...for example when its on C is fine but when it goes on F it's too booomy.
fine ....so i open a compressor (i use classic compressor)....the volumes gets levelled as expected ....but F remains excessively boomy.
so the compressor only levels volumes ....but not frequencies right?
so how do i level frequencies? and possibly in real time with a plugin?
so far i do it the noob way....i render....then apply eq to the F part and take away some of the bass to make it similar to the C part.
is this the only way it can be done or am i missing something?
thx

[rpc9943]

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RONC

[zeoy]

Maybe it's a room acoustics problem

[Deadbeat]

Before adding any effects, jsut trying reducing the velocity of the F note if it's MIDI or drawing in a slight dip of volume automation if it's audio.

The room acoustics issue is a good guess as well. Maybe burn it to CD and go listen to it else where to check this out...

[bduffy]

I agree that it's probably a room issue. Check your miss on a few other stereos or headphones, see if that note is still jumping out. If it's just your room, then you need to think about treating your room to kill some reflections.

Otherwise, try EQ or compression methods discussed.

[No name]

I also agree, i'm in a small enclosed room and the bass ALWAYS sounds boomy when it actually isn't at all. Get you some headphones, and then grab an eq. Cut around 60-80

[kylen]

This is exactly what I'm doing with Voxengo Soniformer (it ain't freeware though), it's the only thing that will smooth out the bass in that situation to my tastes without goofing the whole thing up. I've got a live tape where just 1 note of the bass guitar grabbed on to a piece of the 'room' and made a resonance about 12-15db higher than the other notes. Argh...I think the mic was sitting in a peaking room mode or thereabouts. Real rooms - real people!

[The Chase]

multi-band compression? I suggest buzzroom's

[Frippertronix]

As someone suggested, if your sequencer allows, you can get in and reset the velocity value of that note each time it comes up. A little time consuming, but you might have options to automate it (MIDI filter of some kind), depending on what your setup is. That won't solve the eq difference in the note relative to the others, but it will save your mix from having that annoying extra volume on one note.

[Frippertronix]

He said "dance bass" so I'm assuming this is a synth.

[james0tucson]

He said "dance bass" so I'm assuming this is a synth.

Robert, you send a great insult to our mutual friend, Bootsy Collins.

[_starcraft_]

yes its a synth bass....and probably mirror aliasing on the higher note is causing the xtra boom. but i won't dwell on that.
yeah changing velocity in the piano roll is usually waht i do and its a pretty lame cos bascilaly you're just killing the volume and hiding the problem .i've done it the noob way for a long time....i want to improve my production skills. i surely prefer applying the eq to the boomy part....althought its time consuming.

so basically u guys are saying there is no way to controll bass frequencies through a normal compressor? it only compresses the volume right?
instead multiband compression might come in hand ? and how so? i'll have a look myself but i have not seen a multiband compressor anwyhere for freee....don't even know what it looks like or what it does different from a standard compressor.

[greendoor]

Assuming it's a synth or sampler - the first thing is set your midi velocities. Compress flatten the velocities to the same level. That's midi data - not audio. Then ... adjust your synth or sampler. Maybe it's a sample that is getting a bit stretch by the time it goes down to F? Maybe you can adjust the filter. Maybe you can adjust the way the filter responds across the keyboard? With midi stuff, you should be able to fix most problems before it even gets to audio.

And room sound can be an issue for monitor speakers just as much as for mic'ing up guitar cabinets. Does this "boomey" thing happen with headphones, or in another room? If not, there might not be a problem at all, except with that particular room.

[greendoor]

A synth bass should have extremely smooth transitions between notes compared to a sampler or a real bass guitar. There is something wrong if you need to tame specific notes - try to fix the synth patch, rather than solving the problem later on. Open the filter - adjust the keyboard response - or if it's actually a sampler, try changing the sample ranges. For example - you might have a multi-sample patch, and that problem note might be using a different sample to the rest you are using. Maybe tweaking the range so it uses the same sample as the rest might be the answer.

[_starcraft_]

there's defenetly a difference in bass content with the 2 notes. even the wave editor denotes it.
i just would like them to have the same bass content.

btw the more boomy note in this particular case is the hjgher note....which in a sense sounds "louder".(although both notes peak at excatly same volume level as they are played through classic compressor)
both notes have same velocity and are played on the same synth (subduer).
all i want to knwo is if a plugin exists that compresses the bass content....the frequency.....like an EQ that adjust iotself to what it ears....dynmic eq maybe? if the name makes any sense maybe its waht i neeed?