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jcdawson · Post by **jcdawson** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:01 am

When I bought SampleTank 2 XL back in April, I specifically remember reading on IK's site and in a variety of other places that purchasers who bought after a certain date would get the 2.1 engine and sound set free, and those who bought before would get the engine free and the sounds for about $100. I don't remember the exact cut-off date, but I do recall that it was prior to my purchase. Now I'm wishing I had taken a screen shot, because reading over these posts, it sounds like the deal has gradually changed, so that we all have to pay for the new sound set.

Am I correct here? If I'm wrong, please correct me and accept my apologies.

Kim Lajoie · Post by **Kim Lajoie** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:12 am

No, not everybody will be charged for the sounds update.

If you bought ST2XL this year (2005), then you are entitled to the complete engine and sounds upgrade for no cost.

Certainly no-one will have to pay for it. Everyone (ST2 users) is quite welcome to download the 2.1 engine upgrade and simply use it with their existing library!

-Kim.

jcdawson · Post by **jcdawson** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:14 am

Very well then, my apologies

...and thanks for the extremely quick response!

dgkenney · Post by **dgkenney** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 4:25 pm

I think anyone who bought a pre-order of ST 2XL in 2003 (not the "wait-and sees" of 2004 or the "johnny-come-latelys" of 2005)

AND

Is left handed

AND

Because of lack of keyboard skills is forced to wrangle with midi guitar.

Should receive special consideration.

But that's just me

Dan

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:23 pm

Well, the sound part of this product is something that was passed over to SR a bit. I can tell you that most of the work we did for 2.1 is tweaking up the previous XL library and axing a few duds, adding some new material and mostly programming it to fit the wonderful features of the new engine. If you are already an IK/SR sound collector then you may already have some of the new sounds that were added as tastes of the other ST format products like Expansion Tanks, Sonik Capsules, Sonik Synth 2 and Miroslav Philharmonik. That part won't be as desirable as the just overhauled new versions of the main XL collection that it has. Sounds were optimized more to the new Stretch engine and other updated features.

The main attaction of the enhanced sound set is more for new users I think. More bang for the buck. The $99 upgrade to the new sound set is for L users to upgrade to the current XL sound set (the other 4 discs) but it just so happens to qualify for the free upgrade to the 2.1 sound set (just like anyone who bought XL since Jan would too). There actually is no official previous XL 2.0 to XL 2.1 upgrade of the sound set. We're going to offer it for free to any esoundz gold and platinum members who own ST2XL at least. Anyone else can perhaps purchase it ala carte from us as long as they are registered ST2XL but for less than $99 (so, not the same price as the uprade from L). I'll let you all know when I have more details next month. It'll be fair and enticing.

t-willy · Post by **t-willy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:27 pm

just to clarify 'cause i'm a bit slow today.....

i own ST2L
i can upgrade to ST2XL for $99
i get the 4 extra discs of sounds, plus quality for the extra sounds that come out with STXL2.1?

thanks

lates

t-willy

telebunke · Post by **telebunke** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:42 pm

t-willy wrote:just to clarify 'cause i'm a bit slow today.....

i own ST2L
i can upgrade to ST2XL for $99
i get the 4 extra discs of sounds, plus quality for the extra sounds that come out with STXL2.1?

thanks

lates

t-willy

Yes, that's the deal.
And important. When you buy the Upgrade, you may refer to user harmonygardens, so you and harmony will get $5 in epointz for your next purchase or for downloadable sounds...
When you join esoundz, the member price might even be a little lower than $99.
Gold members would get it for $82.17 at the moment.
It pays to be a firm believer in esoundz.

tele

Vocalpoint Studios · Post by **Vocalpoint Studios** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:53 am

Squids wrote:We're going to offer it for free to any esoundz gold and platinum members who own ST2XL at least.

How will you be notifying "Platinum" customers (like moi?) Special email or something?

Update when you can.

Cheers,

VP

brotherone · Post by **brotherone** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:13 pm

Will ST 2.1 respond to universal master volume messages from a midi keyboard or will there be an assignable controller for the master volume?

Mallory · Post by **Mallory** » Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:43 pm

Squids wrote:...adding some new material...

Maybe that's a tad understated by your goodself

As I recall the soundset in XL now is 5 gig and in 2.1XL will be 7 gigs, right? Of course, you may be quite right to say only "some" in terms of number of sounds if said sounds are gonna be big sample files

Don't worry, just nitpicking

nexussynth · Post by **nexussynth** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:23 am

Maybe this was asked before, but will 2.1 have a master effects section with sends, similar to Philharmonik but most likely without CSR!

Anyway even the regular onboard reverb would benefit from a master/send arrangement.

Sleep Distance · Post by **Sleep Distance** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:06 am

This thread is tempting me to upgrade to XL. I participated in the SonikTank Group buy. I'd heard there was the option of upgrading to XL at the time, but didn't see any instructions on how to do it and decided I'd check out ST2L before deciding on it.
I've been mixing a couple of projects that are heavy on live recorded audio tracks, not VST instruments, so I haven't had much time to spend with ST2L. I just recently started composing a piece using it and wondered if it'd be worth increasing my selection of sounds with XL.

Thanks guys! Since it looks like the offer is still available, maybe I'll sign up with eSoundz and get ST2XL.

telebunke · Post by **telebunke** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:09 am

nexussynth wrote:Maybe this was asked before, but will 2.1 have a master effects section with sends, similar to Philharmonik but most likely without CSR!

Anyway even the regular onboard reverb would benefit from a master/send arrangement.

IIRC Squids said, that CSR is not part of ST2.1 and no master effects withs sends. There are limits to what a compyny can do for a free upgrade, I believe. But I'm sure master effects will make it into future versions.

tele

harmony gardens · Post by **harmony gardens** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:33 am

Ambassador Kosh wrote:This thread is tempting me to upgrade to XL. I participated in the SonikTank Group buy. I'd heard there was the option of upgrading to XL at the time, but didn't see any instructions on how to do it and decided I'd check out ST2L before deciding on it.
I've been mixing a couple of projects that are heavy on live recorded audio tracks, not VST instruments, so I haven't had much time to spend with ST2L. I just recently started composing a piece using it and wondered if it'd be worth increasing my selection of sounds with XL.

Thanks guys! Since it looks like the offer is still available, maybe I'll sign up with eSoundz and get ST2XL.

Good move to get in on the Group buy,,, that was a terrific deal!! IMHO, it's always worth expanding your selection of sounds,,, well, I'm out of the closet on that one,,, I'm a full fledged addict. I have ST2 XL and it definately is worthwhile, even as is, without the upgrade, but the upgrade is a definate a cherry on the sundae.

BTW, you can get added value by using harmonygardens as a referrer when you buy it, and we each get $5 worth of epointz,,,

telebunke · Post by **telebunke** » Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:51 am

Ambassador Kosh wrote: Thanks guys! Since it looks like the offer is still available, maybe I'll sign up with eSoundz and get ST2XL.

Looking at how much you get (another 4 CDs plus the ST2.1 sound upgrade) it's definately worth it fot that price. You'll have more choice of everyting and I tell you that it's nice to have maaaaany string patches to find the one that fits you melody in the head soundwise.

And when you get it, you may refer to user harmonygardens to get $5 in epointz. That is nice, cause you can use them for your next purchase.

tele

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