ableton live to renoise

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i've been workin with live for a while now and tho i love it, i feel like i have to try something new. and there's something about renoise that attracts me to it.

my question is how will workin with renoise affect my workflow considering my background? and also is it worth considering it cuz i've heard it's like going back in time

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It's a completely different conceptual approach, if you have used a traditional tracker before you shouldn't have a problem getting your head around it, if you haven't.. well... it's not that difficult and besides the demo is pretty much fully featured aside from export facilities (you can still save your projects) so it's no great risk in seeing whether it suits your style, personally I think it's a fantastic tracker with a lovely gui and plenty of decent effects, vsti support anyway I'm not gonna sell it to you.. just check it out.

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I find Renoise and EnergyXT is quite a nice marriage. :violin: :singer:

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You could always try syncing it to Live as a master or slave. :harp: :harp:

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i've downloaded the demo and f**k!!! i have no idea what to do. i opened up some demo songs and they sound great butall those numbers (instead of midi clips or waveforms as i was accustomed) make me feel stupid. any tutorials out there?

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Quite a comprehensive WIKI here:

http://tutorials.renoise.com/

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don't worry about those numbers, they'll all make sense soon enough. trackers are nice. :)

vam

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Actually, in Renoise, you can get away without thinking about the numbers too much. The drawable automation envelopes take care of a lot of the work for you.

For relaxation purposes, perhaps try thinking "WEEEE... look at all the information I can see! So much info all at one glance! What a change!", or something like that. :)

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yeah, but it's pretty discouraging when i know i have to learn a whole different way of working (not to mention the vertical timeline) i was used to having a very visual view (yeah i know) of my project. waveforms and midi. i could easily sequence anything anyway i freakin wanted. i guess layering sampless (especially those shorter than 1 bar) would be a pain in the ass

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lightshy wrote:i guess layering sampless (especially those shorter than 1 bar) would be a pain in the ass
That depends on who you ask. Being able to type out sample selection, start, end points, offset, speed, etc..., can be much faster, efficient, when you get used to it.

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lightshy wrote:yeah, but it's pretty discouraging when i know i have to learn a whole different way of working (not to mention the vertical timeline)...
There are a couple buttons in the top right corner that get rid of the upper and lower frames, so that you can see more of the time line. That may help.

Of course, you could always turn your monitor on its side, but that might make it harder to type and read.
veryangrymobster wrote:don't worry about those numbers, they'll all make sense soon enough. trackers are nice.
:D

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allofdrab wrote:Of course, you could always turn your monitor on its side, but that might make it harder to type and read. :D
:hihi:

hey thanks for ur help. i'll get some tutorials and see how i feel about it.

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hey, no prob! :party: :party: :party: :harp:

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