Squids,
I've been playing with the premium grande and i had a question about sampling location.
Why is it that typical orchestra instruments seem to be sampled at their location within the the orchestra (so for example, violin samples might be recorded left or brass on the right etc. ) yet pianos are recorded from the position of the player (high notes left, lower notes right) and not the position of the piano within the room?
Just curious.
steve
Sampling question for squids or anyone else who knows
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- KVRist
- 233 posts since 10 Aug, 2004
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Well, first, sampled orchestras aren't always recorded in their original orchestral position. Just sometimes. I've always sampled instruments in centered stereo for flexibility. I like to have it both ways though and these days if I am in an awesome acoustic space I do BOTH which is nice to have the options later.
The piano isn't necessarily always recorded from the listener's POV (or POH). But, it tends to be miked up close to get all of it's character. We do have a more ambient miked piano in Philharmonik (in addition to an upfront stereo one) but it sounds good within a full orchestral piece and to me it sounds a little odd on its own (whereas the other instruments still sound fine on their own and if you want to pan adjust it center you can do so).
It's more of a novelty to have the piano off to the left. Of course, sometimes for piano concertos the piano is right in the middle. So, that's probably another reason. It doesn't have as much of a defined position either. But, you know, you can sample instruments from every angle, in every acoustic space, from every brand, from every player... and you still aren't covering all that the world of pianos can offer. These are just audio snapshots reanimated for our pleasure. Sometimes developers do things that we know there is a demand for. Sometimes we do things that we just want to have for ourselves or think might be interesting. You know SR's motto. "Sample Everything" .
The piano isn't necessarily always recorded from the listener's POV (or POH). But, it tends to be miked up close to get all of it's character. We do have a more ambient miked piano in Philharmonik (in addition to an upfront stereo one) but it sounds good within a full orchestral piece and to me it sounds a little odd on its own (whereas the other instruments still sound fine on their own and if you want to pan adjust it center you can do so).
It's more of a novelty to have the piano off to the left. Of course, sometimes for piano concertos the piano is right in the middle. So, that's probably another reason. It doesn't have as much of a defined position either. But, you know, you can sample instruments from every angle, in every acoustic space, from every brand, from every player... and you still aren't covering all that the world of pianos can offer. These are just audio snapshots reanimated for our pleasure. Sometimes developers do things that we know there is a demand for. Sometimes we do things that we just want to have for ourselves or think might be interesting. You know SR's motto. "Sample Everything" .