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I make hiphop/rap/and r&b tracks. I was wondering if anyone could turn me on to some cool sites to make some money off of.

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best bet is to start your own internet based business.

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cos nobody else is doing that
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(moved from the cafe to everything else)

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Make a CD full of beats, get a PayPal account and sell them yourself. Put up some freebies so ppl can hear what your stuff is like and pimp it out on as many forums as you can, and put ads in magazines like CM/FM.

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Kriminal wrote:Make a CD full of beats, get a PayPal account and sell them yourself. Put up some freebies so ppl can hear what your stuff is like and pimp it out on as many forums as you can, and put ads in magazines like CM/FM.
and then what? You can buy a cup of coffee... :P :hihi: ....sorry just seems to me the market overflowed it's banks long ago...;)
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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Kriminal wrote:Make a CD full of beats, get a PayPal account and sell them yourself. Put up some freebies so ppl can hear what your stuff is like and pimp it out on as many forums as you can, and put ads in magazines like CM/FM.
/me girds loins for the forthcoming storm of kriminal spam

slainte :hihi: rob

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kriminl spam....sounds like a cheesy movie too me "Kriminal spam, just when you thought it was safe to surf the net" da dump....
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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pHz wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Make a CD full of beats, get a PayPal account and sell them yourself. Put up some freebies so ppl can hear what your stuff is like and pimp it out on as many forums as you can, and put ads in magazines like CM/FM.
/me girds loins for the forthcoming storm of kriminal spam

slainte :hihi: rob
already sold mine :wink:

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Hink wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Make a CD full of beats, get a PayPal account and sell them yourself. Put up some freebies so ppl can hear what your stuff is like and pimp it out on as many forums as you can, and put ads in magazines like CM/FM.
and then what? You can buy a cup of coffee... :P :hihi: ....sorry just seems to me the market overflowed it's banks long ago...;)
Then you have to test the market, find a niche. Stuff aint gonna sell itself, you have to make a big effort and put a lot of time into something like this if you wanna sell....

You prob wont make a living from it, but there is always ppl who will buy quality loops.

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Kriminal wrote:
Hink wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Make a CD full of beats, get a PayPal account and sell them yourself. Put up some freebies so ppl can hear what your stuff is like and pimp it out on as many forums as you can, and put ads in magazines like CM/FM.
and then what? You can buy a cup of coffee... :P :hihi: ....sorry just seems to me the market overflowed it's banks long ago...;)
Then you have to test the market, find a niche. Stuff aint gonna sell itself, you have to make a big effort and put a lot of time into something like this if you wanna sell....

You prob wont make a living from it, but there is always ppl who will buy quality loops.
I seriously thought about a sample cd, I was going to make it velocity layered and have squeal samples at a velocity from like 120 up.....just enough to use it when you wan with compromising the rest of the tones...I sort of still work on it, but the number of samples and such made me realize that if you factored in my time as well as production and advertisements I'd be lucky if made 10% back...

you gotta figure probably atleast 8, likekly more, velocity splits for palm mutes, squeals, hammer ons and pull offs, harmonics x (6 x 24 frets ) all having to be perfect and precise in tone, then mutiply the that by the amount of sounds you want... :? better left for the developers... :hihi:
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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Hink wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
Hink wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Make a CD full of beats, get a PayPal account and sell them yourself. Put up some freebies so ppl can hear what your stuff is like and pimp it out on as many forums as you can, and put ads in magazines like CM/FM.
and then what? You can buy a cup of coffee... :P :hihi: ....sorry just seems to me the market overflowed it's banks long ago...;)
Then you have to test the market, find a niche. Stuff aint gonna sell itself, you have to make a big effort and put a lot of time into something like this if you wanna sell....

You prob wont make a living from it, but there is always ppl who will buy quality loops.
I seriously thought about a sample cd, I was going to make it velocity layered and have squeal samples at a velocity from like 120 up.....just enough to use it when you wan with compromising the rest of the tones...I sort of still work on it, but the number of samples and such made me realize that if you factored in my time as well as production and advertisements I'd be lucky if made 10% back...

you gotta figure probably atleast 8, likekly more, velocity splits for palm mutes, squeals, hammer ons and pull offs, harmonics x (6 x 24 frets ) all having to be perfect and precise in tone, then mutiply the that by the amount of sounds you want... :? better left for the developers... :hihi:
Yeah, real instruments are a nightmare, wouldnt even consider it myself. Drums are easy :D

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I hope that if you choose to do this, you have business sense. I don't think it will be all about you just selling beats and people paying you. There is a business side that you should be well accquainted with first, in my opinion of course. If you want to just start something small, I suggest finding a web designer, and build a nice site that would attract the crowd you are after. After your site is up and everything is ready to go, make sure you have your credientials (or just testimonials). Then upload sound examples, yadda yadda. Paypal would seem good enough (never used it so look into it first). Be a business man, promote your website wherever you can. Contact websites that would be good for your business (KVR, frequented sites relating to hip hop, chat rooms, etc). Have the proper equpment/software readily available for specific tasks (if this site will be for those searching for custom beats, they might want something specific). I'm tired, but I hope this helps for now.
"You are going to let the fear of poverty govern your life and your reward will be that you will eat, but you will not live."

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Hink wrote:
Kriminal wrote:Make a CD full of beats, get a PayPal account and sell them yourself. Put up some freebies so ppl can hear what your stuff is like and pimp it out on as many forums as you can, and put ads in magazines like CM/FM.
and then what? You can buy a cup of coffee... :P :hihi: ....sorry just seems to me the market overflowed it's banks long ago...;)
I don't know....Some local 'po-doo-suh' types recently fleeced some people I know for a ton of money. 6000$ for a cheesy demo in fact.

I say 'fleece' because I helped one guy out by taking the .wav files off of his hard drive and doing some basic remixes (he wanted to use the backing tracks for live performances).

What I saw horrified me: The individual tracks were recorded at absurdly low levels. The guitar loop (used without permission, of course) on one song was barely visible on my wave editor. The 'bass' on all of the tracks was played on some I-don't-know-what keyboard that was so screwed up that the noise frequently was louder than the patch (I imagined some almost broken casio keyboard with an sm57 stuck on the built in speaker. Yeah, it sounded that bad). The other tracks had similar problems: loop points were so bad that the audible clicks were almost painful when you brought the levels up, etc. But the biggest trouble was missing tracks. Stuff that was on the demo, but was totally missing from the hard drive they put his stuff on. Of course, nothing was labeled. And there was 'track' after 'track' that was totally silent.

But they made up for the low track levels on the demo by squashing and amplifying the hell out of the mix. God how crappy that demo did sound.

5 songs for 6000$!!!! And people are lining up at their door. I used to have space in the same building and there were always hapless suckers wandering around saying 'yo man, I heard y'all got beats here'.....sad, sad, sad.

I tell this story because if such hacks can get this kind of business, clearly there is room on the market for competant professionals.

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