Two days with the Miroslav Philharmonik...

[zai]

18th...WOH! :p Next week...next week...oh wait...today's the first day of the week...this week, this week, THIS WEEK...please come this week! LOL

Zai

[Shantar]

18th...WOH! :p Next week...next week...oh wait...today's the first day of the week...this week, this week, THIS WEEK...please come this week! LOL

Zai

Yeah, it is really exciting knowing that I'll get this wonderful piece of gear in a couple of weeks (mail-delivery) I'm really glad I get the chance to be a part of this from the start!

BTW, Squids are such a nice guy! He's got "customer-service" written all over himself! All the recently added bonuses shows us that he and his crew will do everything to satisfy the Philharmonik-users! I am so looking forward to this!

[Squids]

We're kind of unrealistically generous and enthusiastic for a company I guess. If I won the lottery I'd probably just give you all this stuff for free. Seriously though I am a big believer in the more you give the more you get. It really does seem to work that way. Of course one can also NOT give and still manage to get which makes some companies think they don't need to if they don't have to. I don't subscribe to that philosophy. I trust that there is a balance to keep up on both sides and then something really great can come of it... which has happened with esoundz and its customers. That place is going to explode with content and ways to serve the customer's needs that have never been done before in this field... okay, in less pretentious words:

[Rellik]

The 18th awesome!

I'm trying to figure out how long the "Free shipping" option takes. Anyone have any experience with this?

[Shantar]

The 18th awesome!

I'm trying to figure out how long the "Free shipping" option takes. Anyone have any experience with this?

I don't know but I paid an extra $15 to get in in 7 to 10 days... I all depends where you are. I'm living in Norway, so it have to take the long trip to reach my mailbox.

[Rellik]

The 18th awesome!

I'm trying to figure out how long the "Free shipping" option takes. Anyone have any experience with this?

I don't know but I paid an extra $15 to get in in 7 to 10 days... I all depends where you are. I'm living in Norway, so it have to take the long trip to reach my mailbox.

Thanks for the info! 7 to 10 days... that's going to be a pretty "exciting" time, waiting for Philharmonik to arrive

[zai]

We're kind of unrealistically generous and enthusiastic for a company I guess. If I won the lottery I'd probably just give you all this stuff for free. Seriously though I am a big believer in the more you give the more you get. It really does seem to work that way. Of course one can also NOT give and still manage to get which makes some companies think they don't need to if they don't have to. I don't subscribe to that philosophy. I trust that there is a balance to keep up on both sides and then something really great can come of it... which has happened with esoundz and its customers. That place is going to explode with content and ways to serve the customer's needs that have never been done before in this field... okay, in less pretentious words:

You give...and we give it right back...and there's something money can't buy...is our word-of-mouth..."recommendation". If we "smell" a great deal, we will get our friends, family, even family pets in on it!

My dad always say..."If you make a small profit but sell in volumes, over time you'll actually make more then selling only a little by charging 'too much'".

We'll keep coming back if the product is good...given that it's reasonable. I'll take anything that's free...as long as it won't mess up my computer setup. I hate it when I install something...and that install made something else went all crazy...then you'll have to patch this to patch that.... *how in the world did I get the topic way off track?*

Anyway...Squids has been generous with his time...answer questions...to positive comments...and even some "negative" ones. I appreciate all his time...and mark my word, if Philharmonik does well...you'll see IK/esoundz become a FORCE to be taken note of.

Zai

[telebunke]

Thanks for that review, Joseph. Really sounds like this might be a all in one library which contains just enough orchestra for me. That would be nice. Your enthusiasm about the expressive staccato really wants me to hold that baby in my arms.
Do we have some nice string patches that start with a sharp attack, but are long - someting like sustained+marcato.
I'm hoping to get my MIDI file to you soon, but as I moved yesterday, I haven't even set up my PC yet, gotta go to the internet cafe for reading mails...

tele

[Mr. Tunes]

You give...and we give it right back...and there's something money can't buy...is our word-of-mouth..."recommendation". If we "smell" a great deal, we will get our friends, family, even family pets in on it!

i was chatting with the owner of a huge post-production studio the other night. instead of trying to advance my career i ended up just talking about this plugin cause it was much easier for me to discuss that than it was to beg for a job. he of course knows the old miroslav library very well but didnt know there's a nice house for it in sampletank this summer.

[Joseph Burrell]

Seperitoh...

What immediately stands out about the percussion here is the bredth of it. It is shocking that so much percussion is included in the product. Not to mention the variations on the instrument sounds. You have studio and hall patches for a lot of the percussion. There are a lot of what I would consider to be auxillary percussion that didn't need to be there, but its great that it is. I wouldn't say that a percussion aficiando would be satisfied with it, but someone who needs a decent set of orchestral percussion should have their hands full with what's there. I don't have True Strike and wouldn't make a direct comparison if I did, that's not something I do.

What's here is excellently sampled and has its highlights. I love the snare, the timpani is boomy enough for me, the bass drum ungodly enough, and the chimes are freaking gorgeous. If you need a full comprehensive set of percussion and that's the only reason you're interested in Miro, then maybe you should make sure you really look over what its offering. You may be better served with the percussion from VSL or from True Strike. If you need some orchestra instruments to augment what you already have, then its kind of a no-brainer to me to pick up Miro as well.

telebunke...

In addition to staccato and spiccato (another unexpected articulation) for the violin, I've found that marcato can be well achieved using the short detache tight patches (THT.) These emulate well the marcato sound easily. Another option is to use the staccato patches with Stretch programming and lengthen them. I haven't tried that though, so can't vouch for the results.

And I guess I should have said this in my review. I know there are a lot of orchestral products on the market and they each have their own character, their own strengths and weaknesses, and their own use. I mean nothing against any of them and my review should not be read that way. The other products I've used many many times and love them for what they are. However, I can't emphasize enough that the Philharmonik has been resurrected and brushed off and polished like you wouldn't believe. It has a sound its own, a life its own, and each note caries with it an emotion that, just to be honest, is lacking in some sample libraries. There's plusses and minuses to that, since you can't 'remove' the character. But you also can't add it. So the Philharmonik kind of stands apart from the rest when it comes to that. Its an excellent compliment to other products and is also a great starting point if you have no other libraries already.

[telebunke]

In addition to staccato and spiccato (another unexpected articulation) for the violin, I've found that marcato can be well achieved using the short detache tight patches (THT.) These emulate well the marcato sound easily.

That would be my usual "write-a-violin-line-patch", then. Do we have this detache tight patch for Cello, Contrabass and Viola, too?

tele

[Caleb]

What immediately stands out about the percussion here is the bredth of it. It is shocking that so much percussion is included in the product. Not to mention the variations on the instrument sounds. You have studio and hall patches for a lot of the percussion. There are a lot of what I would consider to be auxillary percussion that didn't need to be there, but its great that it is. I wouldn't say that a percussion aficiando would be satisfied with it, but someone who needs a decent set of orchestral percussion should have their hands full with what's there.

Awesome!

And again I get that strange feeling that this product was tailor-made for me.

I just want to SCREAM I'm so excited about this product. Reading this is almost better than hearing more demos......oh yeah - demos. What happened to them Squids?

Caleb

[Scant]

Zai... that's a-lot-a...um...dots.

Relik, It took the SonikTank Group Buy 2 weeks to reach me...I used free ground shipping and I live in Barbados (in the Caribbean).

I must say... I'm really excited about getting Philharmonik in my hands. I'm like a giddy little school girl...uh...boy.

[zai]

Zai... that's a-lot-a...um...dots.

Relik, It took the SonikTank Group Buy 2 weeks to reach me...I used free ground shipping and I live in Barbados (in the Caribbean).

I must say... I'm really excited about getting Philharmonik in my hands. I'm like a giddy little school girl...uh...boy.

:p

I love to type like that...*my thinking dots*...my own style...could get a little annoying though...if I stop and...think...too...much!

Zai

[Joseph Burrell]

That would be my usual "write-a-violin-line-patch", then. Do we have this detache tight patch for Cello, Contrabass and Viola, too?
tele

I can't say definitively because I'm not looking at it at the moment (I do have a day job, much to my chagrin) but I'm pretty sure you have equivalent options in each of the solo and ensemble sections. There are more articulations and styles than you can shake a stick at which will ultimately lend itself well to getting a realistic result since the downfall of most mockups is the over-use of single patches during the mockup process. Of course, you'll need to do some editing here with these patches to get a real marcato feel. You will have to use ample velocity settings coupled with the right note length as well as the right volume settings to achieve a satisfactory result. The payoff is, it sounds excellent. And again, in theory you could use the stretch feature of the staccato patches as well. Maybe that's something I'll monkey with tonight and see what kind of result that gives me.

And I think I know what Dave is talking about being able to Mute and UnMute channels using a controller. Its something users can assign themselves using the user assignable controller feature in Miro. I can't say for sure but its something I plan on looking into when I get home. This allows for customizable control-switch articulation setups, which is cool. I know, getting over the lack of keyswitches is hard for some people, but in my honest opinion, the world is an infinitely better place without them.