When you select "Show selected" in the Main Mixer and click on a MIDI track routed to a VSTi, the VSTi appears in the Mixer.
So far, so good.
Now, when you show a parameter for that VSTi, the VST section disappears from the Mixer. To get it back you have to select the Sequencer window again.
This also happen when:
- you add an Insert FX to that VSTi,
- you show a parameter for that Insert FX,
- you add a Send FX
- It looks like the Mixer forgets that the Sequencer (and track) is selected.
BR - Disappearing VSTis in the Mixer
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
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Anyone confirm this?
NB - you need to select "Show Selected"
Anyone confirm this?
NB - you need to select "Show Selected"
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- KVRAF
- 25010 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
jens wrote:not only this but it also doesn't show the the respective channels of a track in the mixer anymore when you click on the track header (dunno how Jorgen calls these 'channels' - the bit in the mixer with the fader of an audio-track/vsti, its inserts and it's send settings)jens wrote:eXT often doesn't react to key-commands (e.g. strg+z, shift+return)
something is seriously f**ked up!
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99365jens wrote:weird: suddenly the same song reacts to key-commands again and also the mixer works as expected once more...
Meanwhile I found out that it will reappear when I minimize eXT and then re-activate the window.
I haven't yet found out what action it is to make it disappear but here it's not to add parameters in the mixer.
Can you confirm that the bug also affects audio-tracks, Simon?
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- KVRian
- 693 posts since 21 Oct, 2003 from Madrid
I don`t get this behaviour, but I just noticed I am using Beta 1.4 from august 12th
What version are you using?
What version are you using?
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- KVRAF
- 25010 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
We're also using the latest beta. The bug has been introduced with this version.
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- KVRian
- 693 posts since 21 Oct, 2003 from Madrid
Ok I`ll check again once I have my first cup of coffee of the dayjens wrote:We're also using the latest beta. The bug has been introduced with this version.
Actually the first coffee from my last day of vacation
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- KVRAF
- 25010 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
b.t.w.: when the bug happens EXT also doesn't react to key-commands anymore...
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- KVRAF
- 25010 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
and as I wrote minimising the window and then re-activating it cures the problem but while I wrote the last post it happened twice that eXT suddenly sucked up almost all available cpu-resources and it took me a while to get the window back and eXT's cpu-meter showed full usage until I started playback and then everything was normal again... 
(so far this sounds like a denormal but but it would be the first I ever experienced with this machine as it's an Athlon XP)
(so far this sounds like a denormal but but it would be the first I ever experienced with this machine as it's an Athlon XP)
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- KVRAF
- 25010 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
last vacation days suck...Kaos Axiom wrote:Ok I`ll check again once I have my first cup of coffee of the dayjens wrote:We're also using the latest beta. The bug has been introduced with this version.
Actually the first coffee from my last day of vacation
you just need to work on a track - suddenly it happens all by itself...
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- KVRAF
- 25010 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
it seems as if the '100% cpu-usage'-bug was Mozilla's fault...
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 28 May, 2003 from Pirkanmaa, Finland
..thanks.jens wrote:it seems as if the '100% cpu-usage'-bug was Mozilla's fault...
I thought I used too many effects.
@Kaos: know the feeling. I'm having second one now..
[ When chickens are cold, they roost in trees; when ducks are cold, they plunge into water ]
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- KVRAF
- 25010 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
did you only come here to troll this thread? 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
@Jens, yep same problem with audio tracks.
- so strictly the topic title should be "Disappearing Mixer sections"
Ok, here's the recipe that does it for me:
[beta 12 August]
- start with an empty project, add a Sequencer, add any VSTi to a MIDI track,
- in the Mixer, choose "Show Selected"
- - >> the VSTi section in the Mixer disappears, even though the track (and VSTi) are still selected in the Sequencer Arrange view
- click on the MIDI track header and the VSTi section is redisplayed
- right-click on the VSTi name in the Mixer, select Show param and choose any param
- - >> the VSTi section in the Mixer disappears again
- click on the MIDI track header and the VSTi section is redisplayed
- add any Send FX
- - >> the VSTi section in the Mixer disappear again
- click on the MIDI track header and the VSTi section is redisplayed
OR
- in the Sequencer, insert sample for an audio track
- click the audio track's audio channel number [1] in the Mixer >>. Add insert, choose any FX
- - >> the audio track section in the Mixer disappears
- click on the audio track header and the VSTi section is redisplayed
The same problems are in v1.3.5 and 05 August beta and 29 July beta.
In v1.3.0 the equivalent (with "Select by track" in the Seq mixer) is OK.
It may be because the Sequencer window loses the focus when you do any of these actions.
- so strictly the topic title should be "Disappearing Mixer sections"
Ok, here's the recipe that does it for me:
[beta 12 August]
- start with an empty project, add a Sequencer, add any VSTi to a MIDI track,
- in the Mixer, choose "Show Selected"
- - >> the VSTi section in the Mixer disappears, even though the track (and VSTi) are still selected in the Sequencer Arrange view
- click on the MIDI track header and the VSTi section is redisplayed
- right-click on the VSTi name in the Mixer, select Show param and choose any param
- - >> the VSTi section in the Mixer disappears again
- click on the MIDI track header and the VSTi section is redisplayed
- add any Send FX
- - >> the VSTi section in the Mixer disappear again
- click on the MIDI track header and the VSTi section is redisplayed
OR
- in the Sequencer, insert sample for an audio track
- click the audio track's audio channel number [1] in the Mixer >>. Add insert, choose any FX
- - >> the audio track section in the Mixer disappears
- click on the audio track header and the VSTi section is redisplayed
The same problems are in v1.3.5 and 05 August beta and 29 July beta.
In v1.3.0 the equivalent (with "Select by track" in the Seq mixer) is OK.
It may be because the Sequencer window loses the focus when you do any of these actions.
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- KVRAF
- 25010 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Simon, did you try if all shortcuts (e.g. space and crtl+z) still work?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
Have done so just now - they stop working too. More strictly, the shortcuts apply to the main window.
for example:
After I have down a "show param" and the VSTi section has disappeared:
- ctrl+spacebar does nothing,
- m pops up the context menu for the Sequencer comp, rather than mute the selected track.
So it seems more and more to me that the focus is transferred to the Seq comp in these cases.
Stop press:
for example:
After I have down a "show param" and the VSTi section has disappeared:
- ctrl+spacebar does nothing,
- m pops up the context menu for the Sequencer comp, rather than mute the selected track.
So it seems more and more to me that the focus is transferred to the Seq comp in these cases.
Stop press:
I'll bet Jorgen has sorted it.coming next wrote:Fixed some issues with 'auto show' and 'show selected' in mixer.