FL Studio MIDI question

[audiobot202]

Hey Audio.
Did you get to export and use the MIDI file?
I have been trying to use an old file exported as MIDI but any time I open it in EnergyXT or T1 I get some really weird behaviour from the VSTis.
It seems that FL sends all kind of MIDI messages along with the MIDI file itself. Messages that were not suppossed to be there in the first place
Have you had similar issues?

Hey Kaos. Yep, I did dude. It worked out fine, althouygh Fruity does export other info along with it. When importing it, if your host guives you a chopice, choose that you want the 'midi out' channel. It's pretty annoying.
I just created a new 'midi out' channel in Fruity and then copied all the notes to the new piano roll and exported as normal to a .mid file. No problems.
But yeah, similar issues over here mate.

[xander]

Well, some of us wanted the information anyway on THIS particular forum and since others have found it useful, why not?

Besides, have to agree with poster above, the export midi function is cumbersome in FL. It's not intuitive which is why it has never been my main host.

Yeah?

Nothing wrong with asking those questions in this forum at all. It seems to me though that if you were that interested in an answer you'd have checked Looptalk first.

And then this is weird:

... I had had enough of the current FL Studio. Decided to go back to an earlier version.

Why would a registered owner go back to 3.4 which is even less midi friendly? I'd like to know...

To satisfy your curiosity Xander:

1) I don't go to Looptalk, but I frequently visit KVR. There are a lot of Fruity users here and there is a forum by the name of 'Hosts'. Simple enough for you?

2) Because I find later versions to be feature bloated. That's why I prefer version 3x. Are you trying to imply something else here?

Oh and the answer is 'yes', I do own a license for Fruity in all it's incarnations. I have owned it for several years now. Everything is legitimate, so you can stick your head back in now. The Warez police have all gone home.
Apart from which it's none of your sodding business so don't point that finger at me. Understand?

You sure are getting very defensive -- a might suspiciously so, thou doest protest too much, yeah?

There's no warez police clown boy. I asked a legitimate question with regard to your self-admitted ridiculous questions.

Seems I hit a fcking nerve though, and your reaction is way overboard.

You've taken offense at reasonable questions and responded pavlovian, as could have been predicted.

By the way -- I started a thread about you in Looptalk. You might be interested in reading it.

[Penis Arcade]

I certainly think the process of creating a separate channel, then copying the score from one channel to another, then rendering the project, is quite a kludge, .

All yu have to do is use "prepare for MIDI export" - you don't need any other steps (ie. creating MIDI channels and copying data - is entirely unnecessary because the macro does it for you).

FL is not a MIDI sequencer. MIDI is a supported output format but FL is not built with MIDI at the core.

[audiobot202]

You sure are getting very defensive -- a might suspiciously so, thou doest protest too much, yeah?

There's no warez police clown boy. I asked a legitimate question with regard to your self-admitted ridiculous questions.

Seems I hit a fcking nerve though, and your reaction is way overboard.

You've taken offense at reasonable questions and responded pavlovian, as could have been predicted.

By the way -- I started a thread about you in Looptalk. You might be interested in reading it.

Ok, just so we're on the same page, this is what you said in Looptalk:

"Some dude posting in KVR named audiobot202 claims he reverted back to FL version 3.4, saying that 5.02 is bloated.

I can't figure out what he means, since I don't see that much "bloating" in 5.02 -- just a better all around host that's easier to use and has better functionality - maybe even faster.

Maybe I'm wrong, but, does anyone else think that version 5.02 is 'Bloated' as compared to vers 3.4?

Is 3.4 a better version?

Cheers, Alex "

That's ok, you can call me whatever you like. At least I don't go around implying that people are using pirated versions. I know that's what you've been getting at all along. You question why it is that I, a registered user, would wish to go back to an early version. You can't possibly conceive of the idea that I might like some of the workflow of 3x or like something else about it?
The nerve you've been hittng is the one called "sick and tired of dimwits accusing others of something they have no business of accusing them of"
Just so you know

Now, as to your Looptalk post matey...I think I've justified my fairly mundane decision to go back to 3.4. So, just get over it, or go on believing something untrue. Whatever floats your boat or gets you off...

[headquest]

Well said audiobot. I think you have proved that:

1) you are a legitimate user
2) you have a legitimate point to make, and
3) that ...xander owes you an apology for falsely accusing you

[xander]

I never accused the guy of anything -- I just asked a question... f...ck

and I STILL haven't gotten an answer to my queston, as if someone were trying to avoid the answer: What is it about 3.14 that is less bloated than 5.02? I would really like to know! Or am I pointing fingers again...

[ceenda]

On this subject, are there any web mirrors that still have the 4.5.2 demo on them? Does anyone still have it? I lost my earlier archives but they've all been updated to 5.0 now.

[Germ777]

Hey Kaos. Yep, I did dude. It worked out fine, althouygh Fruity does export other info along with it. When importing it, if your host guives you a choice, choose that you want the 'midi out' channel. It's pretty annoying.
I just created a new 'midi out' channel in Fruity and then copied all the notes to the new piano roll and exported as normal to a .mid file. No problems.
But yeah, similar issues over here mate.

How freaking Annoying
Thanks for the tip. I will try it out and see if I can open it without the extra MIDI data.
Later

[audiobot202]

Well said audiobot. I think you have proved that:

1) you are a legitimate user
2) you have a legitimate point to make, and
3) that ...xander owes you an apology for falsely accusing you

Thanks for the support mate

[99]

Well said audiobot. I think you have proved that:

1) you are a legitimate user
2) you have a legitimate point to make, and
3) that ...xander owes you an apology for falsely accusing you

Thanks for the support mate

I think you were the one being rude, he just asked some question. So why don't you still answer xander's question?

[audiobot202]

I never accused the guy of anything -- I just asked a question... f...ck

and I STILL haven't gotten an answer to my queston, as if someone were trying to avoid the answer: What is it about 3.14 that is less bloated than 5.02? I would really like to know! Or am I pointing fingers again...

I think it all started when you IMPLIED in your two earlier posts that something was 'up' or 'weird' about my decision to ask a question about Fruity here and that I was using 3.4.
Don't worry I can read between the lines.

Why do I prefer 3.4...ok, it's smaaller, seems faster and less resource hungry on my machine, less feature clutter making it easier for me to whip up something quickly.
Does that all make sense?

Its' not my main host. I use it from time to time to create patterns. I don't like the sequencer in it and never have. But it does sport some good functionality in other areas. Obviously exporting MIDI is not one of them!

So, all your questions answered. There's no big mystery about it ! Sheesh.

[audiobot202]

Well said audiobot. I think you have proved that:

1) you are a legitimate user
2) you have a legitimate point to make, and
3) that ...xander owes you an apology for falsely accusing you

Thanks for the support mate

I think you were the one being rude, he just asked some question. So why don't you still answer xander's question?

Go back and read Xander's page one posts. He was questioning my registered user status. I think it's pretty self explanatory. Even a partially veiled accusation is still an accusation.
And I have answered his questions. All of them.

[99]

I think you were the one being rude, he just asked some question. So why don't you still answer xander's question?

Go back and read Xander's page one posts. He was questioning my registered user status. I think it's pretty self explanatory. Even a partially veiled accusation is still an accusation.
And I have answered his questions. All of them.

I did go back. I dont agree I think you over acted on it. But also, I cant see where you explained the difference between 3.14 and 5.02 versions anywhere in a detail.

[audiobot202]

I think you were the one being rude, he just asked some question. So why don't you still answer xander's question?

Go back and read Xander's page one posts. He was questioning my registered user status. I think it's pretty self explanatory. Even a partially veiled accusation is still an accusation.
And I have answered his questions. All of them.

I did go back. I dont agree I think you over acted on it. But also, I cant see where you explained the difference between 3.14 and 5.02 versions anywhere in a detail.

Let's just agree to disagree ok? I saw it and you didn't. No problem.

Well, I'm hardly going to give you a massive list of detailed reasons am I !! I'm not that technically minded mate !
I have already explained above.
5x: resource hungry, I find it bloated, many features I don't use since it is not my host of choice.

3.4: not so resource hungry, seems faster, less of the features I will never use and more that I do.

That's all. That's all she wrote. Its very very simple really. My opinions only. I'm not questioning what host you use or why you might use version 5x or whatever. This is purely a personal decision which, quite frankly, is NO big deal.
In fact, I'm surprised people are even focussing on it ! People use old software every day becauser they prefer something about it. maybe it's something undefinable. Maybe it's just a couple of small reasons. The fact that I don't use FL as a main host means that I can use whatever early version I like and still get all I need from it.
3.4 isn't that far back either. Maybe a few years, but the core functionality is the same.

[headquest]

I think you were the one being rude...

Reading back, that's definitely not how I saw it

Xander's first post here read:

Be that as it may, all this info is quickly available from the FLS 'Looptalk' forum, as any registered user knows -- even with version 3.4.

There are HUNDREDS of fcuking topics on this in Looptalk...

If the foo shits mate...

That really does look like a thinly veiled accusation of dishonesty to me

he just asked some question.

And I don't see a question in there at all, 99.

Anyway, it's not for me to sort out - I'm just passing through out of interest (long term FL lurker... keep almost getting it as a fun extra in my setup, but right now Live 5 is just TOO much fun )