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defjamm · Post by **defjamm** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:38 pm

james0tucson wrote:It's no substitute for good vocal technique. If you need one for your talk show guests, you have to decide if they really deserve you spending that much money on them to embarrass them a little lessssssss.

there are great singers who have a natural problem with their esses.

james0tucson · Post by **james0tucson** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:39 pm

kevvvvv wrote: And he has a reasonably detailed knowledge of different hip hop styles.

One would be hard pressed to find an individual of a certain age and social bracket, who was *not* knowledgeable in this area.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:48 pm

defjamm wrote:
james0tucson wrote:It's no substitute for good vocal technique. If you need one for your talk show guests, you have to decide if they really deserve you spending that much money on them to embarrass them a little lessssssss.
there are great singers who have a natural problem with their esses.

the problem is to a great degree enhanced by using compression and eq - it's not only the singer's fault...

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:59 pm

kevvvvv wrote:jens
have you read all of his posts?

I'm sure this boy is far from ever having had any customer and if so I feel very sorry for the customer -
I took up your recommendation and read up some of Stairsteps posts.

He only has one middling computer running an Audigy card. I would find it impossible to run a pro studio on such little gear.

OTOH his software list includes a lot of synths - inc Sonar and Project 5.

And he has a reasonably detailed knowledge of different hip hop styles.

So while being a pro studio owner sounds out of the question, having a few mates around to record doesn't sound unreasonable.

jens - point taken

I myself looked up a few older posts of him now and to my astonishment and enjoyment I found out that I am very consistent in my way of dealing with him

(had forgotten about this old thread myself):

jens wrote:
Stairsteps wrote:Can you read? you dont have to use 2 tracks , read my post above.
And no you cant have everything every which way , but then agian you didnt clairify which way , you just said Sonar4 couldnt do it and I proved you wrong.
can you read? Your solution is destructively like in SX!

And I have confirmed that this is possible already in the third post of this thread!

Do you have anything useful to add to this information?

No?

Then why bothering us anyway?

Didn't your mother teach you not to interrupt adults if they are leading serious conversations?

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... c&start=15

defjamm · Post by **defjamm** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:07 pm

jens wrote:
defjamm wrote:
james0tucson wrote:It's no substitute for good vocal technique. If you need one for your talk show guests, you have to decide if they really deserve you spending that much money on them to embarrass them a little lessssssss.
there are great singers who have a natural problem with their esses.
the problem is to a great degree enhanced by using compression and eq - it's not only the singer's fault...

that's true, especially today where the engineers aim for a very bright sound and the music is heavily compressed.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:10 pm

jens wrote: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... c&start=15

Ja, so schlau war das nicht...

Aber, aus demselben Thread:

jens wrote:Und übrigens: falls es Dir lieber ist, können wir unser Gespräch in der Tat gerne in meiner Muttersprache fortsetzen, Du schrumpfköpfige Evolutionsbremse!

Sehr eloquent formuliert.

Ich hab's in dem anderen Thread schon gesagt: Jens, du mutierst zum Arschloch!
Mir ist das ziemlich egal, ob jemand Mumpitz schreibt, so antwortet man schlicht und ergreifend nicht in einem öffentlichen Forum - es sei denn, man bevorzugt es, das zu sein, was ich schon erwähnte: Ein Arschloch.
Vielleicht tust du dich bald mit Jackle&Hyde zusammen...

Sorry for the german.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:25 pm

yes indeed, sorry for the German...

Sorry, Sascha aber ich denke Du tust mir da deutlich unrecht. Ich reagiere lediglich entsprechend, wenn jemand anders damit beginnt, eine etwas unfreundlichere oder unhöfliche Verhaltensweise 'and den Tag zu legen'. Und Unhöflichkeit beginnt meiner Ansicht nach schon damit, wenn man regelmäßig die Beiträge der Anderen grob überfliegt, und dann darauf antwortet, was man glaubt, daß die Anderen geschrieben hätten, während man in Wirklichkeit meilenweit danebenliegt. Jemanden, der derart in einem Forum 'unkommuniziert', den kann ich nicht ernst nehmen und ich werde daher dementsprechend reagieren. Dies hat nun aber nichts mit Arroganz oder Unfreundlichkeit zu tun. Ich kritisiere nicht die Unwissenheit Anderer, sondern deren mangelnde Bereitschaft Kommunikation als reziproken Prozess zu behandeln. Und wenn ich mal feststelle, in meiner Reaktion 'über's Ziel hinausgeschossen' zu sein, dann bin ich auch durchaus in der Lage, mich dafür zu entschuldigen.

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:34 pm

Oh und bloß zu Erinnerung - Schau mal hier, was Mr. Stairsteps geschrieben hat:

Stairsteps wrote:Now that I know you would recomend that a person edit the Sss by lowering there volume I know your not even in the ballpark on knowing what to do with that situation.

Im gleichen Beitrag empfiehlt er einen Popschutz zu S-Reduktion. Ich habe in diesem Thread erst danach begonnen, ebenfalls beleidigend zu werden.

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:34 pm

Is that a foreign language or are you just really bad at spelling?

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:35 pm

chagzuki wrote:Is that a foreign language or are you just really bad at spelling?

A foreign language? What's that?

sidrat · Post by **sidrat** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:35 pm

headquest wrote:Are Sidrat, Stairsteps,and superprotoolsuser the same person using multiple monikers

are you -still- trying to stir the pot, headcase?

seriously, you should think about getting a girlfriend or something...

fizbin · Post by **fizbin** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:03 pm

james0tucson wrote:
fizbin wrote: Anyone needing a complete basic set of full-featured plugs that didn't grab those really missed out.
Your message was the first I ever heard of this product.

Seems it's the merchant who "missed out" by failing to reach me, the prospective customer. Now that I know the correct price on the product, if it's being offered at a higher price, why would it interest me now?

It's actually been around for a very long time, originally owned and developed by Ultrafunk (www.ultrafunk.com). Cakewalk bought it out as an add-on to Sonar pro edition (I use Cubase), but also has it for sale seperately.

Perhaps you need to get on the Cakewalk mailing list? Not sure, but anyway there was this post - http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... ht=sonitus

james0tucson · Post by **james0tucson** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:08 pm

fizbin wrote: Perhaps you need to get on the Cakewalk mailing list?

Perhaps your view of the responsibilities between a merchant and his potential clientele is different from mine. My only point was, whatever marketing and advertising Cakewalk is doing, failed to reach me. Take that however you want. But don't expect me to be motivated to spend any time or do any work because of it...

fizbin · Post by **fizbin** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:15 pm

james0tucson wrote:Perhaps your view of the responsibilities between a merchant and his potential clientele is different from mine. My only point was, whatever marketing and advertising Cakewalk is doing, failed to reach me. Take that however you want. But don't expect me to be motivated to spend any time or do any work because of it...

I really don't expect anything of you. Because of your endearing demeanor, I'm already beginning to care less about you than I did previously, which was absolutely zero at that point.

fizbin

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:21 pm

people start being nice to each other...

Waves Platinum or Voxengo Plugs and a computer upgrade?