KVR Audio

Alex@ProgressAudio · Post by **Alex@ProgressAudio** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:20 am

As a plug-in developer, this would definately be do-able. I did an experiment a while back and found that you can easily get multiple instances of the same plug to communicate with each other.

So you could add the analyser plug to each of the tracks you want to compare, and view them all on one graph.

It'd work in any VST host, its definately possible technically

Alex

MadPsyance · Post by **MadPsyance** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 12:47 am

james0tucson wrote:
rpc9943 wrote:what if there could be a plugin that can analyze every frequency of tracks you input? for example, you could input guitars, drums, bass, vocals, and easily see the spectral space that each one takes
It sounds like what you want is just a spectrum analyzer that's efficient enough to run an instance per-track.

I think the concept here is to have different tracks routed to the same analyzer and it would be obvious which tracks were creating each frequency range within the analyzer, no?

"So you could add the analyser plug to each of the tracks you want to compare, and view them all on one graph."
Yes. You took the words out of my mouth as I was typing them.

loophead · Post by **loophead** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:06 am

Ron - this is a great idea, don't let every ass being him/her self get you down. There are and always will be nay-sayers.

On a mac this is absolutely doable in both vst and au standards. Having each track a color on one screen... absolutely useful. Anyone who says use your ears is thinking without theirs !

This is an elegant solution to an everyday issue. You rock !

Anyone who disagrees should look at Inspector, InspectorXL, Spectral Foo, Ozone etc. Correlation meters, Spectral content etc. quite useful tools. And as tools some will learn to use them, some with work without. Is one path better than another ? No. But to hit down an idea in this way is just absurd. A hammer is a hammer is a hammer. When it is useful to have a hammer thats the thing to have.

The key to this would be good coding so overhead is kept to a minimum. Aside from that very doable...

My two cents

gambaytheunspoken · Post by **gambaytheunspoken** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:06 am

I think Ron C's idea is a good one. And no one has given in my view given any sound arguments why it isn't a good idea. It's simply a tool to help produce better music. I've never mixed anything without looking at db meters, and I have pretty good ears. So like Ron C said, just a different tool to help with the job of producing perhaps better sounding music. Having said that, I think there's a tool called spectrograph that does this sort of thing. It's not vst or dxi but you can load, I believe, a number of different wave files into it and overlay them using different frequency analysis tools, in addition to harmonic distortion and the like.
Ciao.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:08 am

Ahhh

*ronC sits back in his chair wishing he could code right now*

I think that voxengo would be the best, with their span module they could probably implement it, i sent them an email.

RoNC

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:13 am

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/956.html

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:15 am

wtf, that isnt what i requested

RonC

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:20 am

rpc9943 wrote:wtf, that isnt what i requested

RonC

Yeah, it is.

Multiple instances talk to each other overlaying the spectra of each instance.

I know because I posted exactly the same brilliant idea a while back and got exactly the same answer.

Try the demo. I did.

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:25 am

O_o

>_<;

RONC

SleepyP · Post by **SleepyP** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:32 am

neato!

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:34 am

hoooly crap.

well thanks guys, and F U to those who tried to tarnish my dreams!

...there goes my $79 to VOXENGO!!!

RONC

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:44 am

hold on. i tried the demo and its not exactly what i wanted.

how about we can route each one into a single instance?

thats what we need.

im back to my old point, we should ask voxengo to do a simple spectral analyzer that doesnt have eq that can afford labelling etc.

RonC

rockstar_not · Post by **rockstar_not** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:46 am

Ron, glad to see you got what you were looking for. I use this kind of a spectrum overlay in my 'real' job analyzing automotive noises. But it's not real-time - that's the bugger that makes it a bit of a CPU hog. I'm rarely multiplexing signals with automotive noises anyway, so it was not a big deal. I was about to suggest a photoshop solution - of course not real-time but you could have made screenshots of individual instances of SPAN, made the background color transparent, saved, go to the next track, put it on another layer in photoshop, etc. etc. etc. Not realtime, and not worth doing when you can shell out $79 to get it done for you - with parametric EQ built in. Yes, that's a worthy plug to have.

-Scott

Roland Babbage · Post by **Roland Babbage** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:20 pm

Click here, stash. Definition 4 is the one you want.

Space Boy · Post by **Space Boy** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:23 pm

You're basically talking about 'Space Boy' with more channels.

You can already use 'Space Boy' on 4 tracks. There is nothing to stop you loading more instances, routing them, and activating/de-activating them as required.

As you might expect, having the 'Space Boy' functionality available on and between all tracks simultaneously has certainly crossed my mind. It may be a bit overkill for most usage - but never say never

wanted: plugin that analyzes multiple inputs' spectrum