It was made using some of these things:
plus a few other pieces of metal junk not pictured.
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New version at same old, boring link:
listen here
annihilist :: trinity [teaser 2] - new 'improved' mix
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- KVRAF
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal
OK, new mix posted, much difference in sound.
It was made using some of these things:
plus a few other pieces of metal junk not pictured.
[edit]
New version at same old, boring link:
listen here
It was made using some of these things:
plus a few other pieces of metal junk not pictured.
[edit]
New version at same old, boring link:
listen here
Last edited by dystonia_ek on Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:53 am, edited 3 times in total.
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
I'll check this out soon as I get home tonight.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal
Cool. Don't get too excited though - it's pretty rough. I added it to my sounds page a few days ago, waffled over posting. Just made some major revisions to the mix this evening - I'll probably upload the improved version Monday or Tuesday.
My neighbours must really hate me.
My neighbours must really hate me.
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- KVRAF
- 3511 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England
Odd track this. I'm listening as though it's an extremely quiet microsound piece, but with a sheet of noise replacing the silence. The timbre of the noise is quite pleasant (I suspect this is what you meant by rough mix 
) which makes listening out for the noises behind it a joy.
) which makes listening out for the noises behind it a joy.-
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal
Thanks for checking it out Cron - and you may be partly correct in your inference... but it's really just that the parts aren't properly balanced/processed and the stereo field stuff isn't done. It's an excerpt from a 66 minute piece, and I'm building it in sections, so some parts are more (over)done than others. The much more finished opening section is on my sounds page (click 'noises' in my sig).
but it's really just that the parts aren't properly balanced/processed and the stereo field stuff isn't done. It's an excerpt from a 66 minute piece, and I'm building it in sections, so some parts are more (over)done than others. The much more finished opening section is on my sounds page (click 'noises' in my sig).-
- KVRAF
- 3964 posts since 31 Aug, 2003 from In a foreign town, in a foreign land
Haven't listened yet, will do in a mo.
Looking at the instrumentarium and the way in which this is layed out, is this a ritual piece?
Groet, Erik
Looking at the instrumentarium and the way in which this is layed out, is this a ritual piece?
Groet, Erik
Pop music delenda est.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
I had a similar experience to cron, a lot the detail is hidden and awash in hum and fuzz, makes for Where's Waldo-styled listening.
Love the rising siren through most of the latter half, whatever it was. It is a very soothing experience listening to this, reminds me of that all-consuming sound feeling you get in the tunnels under Niagara Falls.
Might be that the main noisewash is maybe too all-consuming at the expense of the finer detail.
Love the rising siren through most of the latter half, whatever it was. It is a very soothing experience listening to this, reminds me of that all-consuming sound feeling you get in the tunnels under Niagara Falls.
Might be that the main noisewash is maybe too all-consuming at the expense of the finer detail.
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- KVRAF
- 1955 posts since 5 Sep, 2003 from Denmark
Great. More!
(I'm rediscovering my guitar pedals and buying odd 80's japanese ones on ebay - you did that you b*!&#"%¤&!"
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(I'm rediscovering my guitar pedals and buying odd 80's japanese ones on ebay - you did that you b*!&#"%¤&!"
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal
@Erik:
No, not particularly a ritual piece - I finished with that sort of thing a long time ago. Photo was poking fun at the photo on the back of Floyd's 'Ummagumma', with an additional nod to Neubauten's existing parody of same.
The 'rising siren' sound is duelling Tibetan thighbone trumpets with a little processing.
The main noisewash is overwhelming - as I said nothing is properly eq'd or balanced yet. Monitoring is a pain at home right now, and I'm going to do the final mix of the whole thing in a studio. I find that the some of the metal is a little weak sounding, but I have to use contact mics for the most part at home to keep the volume down. I worked on the section of which this is a part a little more yesterday and it's much better now - will post an update soon.
@Thomas: I've had those pedals for ages, used to have more but I had some stuff stolen at a show back in 1990 which never got replaced. I use the compressor, distortion and eq on all the contact-miked stuff generally. Many noise artists work exclusively with pedals and mixer feedback though - you can do a lot with the splitting of the signal chain through pedal combinations and then feeding it all back in at various points.
Thanks to y'all for listening.
No, not particularly a ritual piece - I finished with that sort of thing a long time ago. Photo was poking fun at the photo on the back of Floyd's 'Ummagumma', with an additional nod to Neubauten's existing parody of same.
The 'rising siren' sound is duelling Tibetan thighbone trumpets with a little processing.
The main noisewash is overwhelming - as I said nothing is properly eq'd or balanced yet. Monitoring is a pain at home right now, and I'm going to do the final mix of the whole thing in a studio. I find that the some of the metal is a little weak sounding, but I have to use contact mics for the most part at home to keep the volume down. I worked on the section of which this is a part a little more yesterday and it's much better now - will post an update soon.
@Thomas: I've had those pedals for ages, used to have more but I had some stuff stolen at a show back in 1990 which never got replaced. I use the compressor, distortion and eq on all the contact-miked stuff generally. Many noise artists work exclusively with pedals and mixer feedback though - you can do a lot with the splitting of the signal chain through pedal combinations and then feeding it all back in at various points.
Thanks to y'all for listening.
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
I've liked everything you've done so far with those Tibetan thighbone trumpets. Are they difficult to play, and do the two sound very different from each (difference in bone shape, density, etc)?
True about the pedals, Harshnoise won't even look at folk unless they're adequately pedalled up.
True about the pedals, Harshnoise won't even look at folk unless they're adequately pedalled up.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111329 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i love hearing whats underneath
look forward to the full set.
look forward to the full set.
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- KVRAF
- 1955 posts since 5 Sep, 2003 from Denmark
Specifics, please. Need ideas for my shopping plan...dystonia_ek wrote:I've had those pedals for ages, used to have more but I had some stuff stolen at a show back in 1990 which never got replaced. I use the compressor, distortion and eq on all the contact-miked stuff generally. Many noise artists work exclusively with pedals and mixer feedback though - you can do a lot with the splitting of the signal chain through pedal combinations and then feeding it all back in at various points.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal
I've just got four - the only absolutely essential one is the Boss GE-7 EQ. Best EQ pedal I've tried, especially when 'played' in real time. The compressor is an old Yamaha, don't care much for it in particular, use just to boost gain. The delay is an Ibanez DDL-2, used just for separating mono into stereo. The black one is a Boss HM-2 Heavy Metal distortion. Nice warm, fuzzy distortion that doesn't really sound very metal.
Before shopping for pedals, you should check harshnoise.com - they've got extensive listings and reviews, including lots of lesser-known stuff.
Before shopping for pedals, you should check harshnoise.com - they've got extensive listings and reviews, including lots of lesser-known stuff.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal
The plainer one (from Nepal) is slightly higher pitched and easier to get a clear, sustained tone from. The more ornate one (from Tibet, just got it recently) is deeper and throatier, and due to the all-metal mouthpiece it takes a little more effort. There's not a lot of technique involved, just lots of huffing and puffing. I've always loved the sound though, sort of simultaneously cold and warm and distant. Just took ages to actually find them.shamann wrote:I've liked everything you've done so far with those Tibetan thighbone trumpets. Are they difficult to play, and do the two sound very different from each (difference in bone shape, density, etc)?
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- KVRAF
- 7317 posts since 7 Mar, 2003