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What does pitch raise mode do?

This thing looks sweeeeeeet.

As for the Feiten system, it's not strictly based on piano tuning, even if that's what his literature leads you to believe (dunno, haven't looked at his literature in a while). It is based on a combination of 2 things, one of which is guitar-specific. The guitar-specific thing is that when you physically press down on a string, you pull it sharp. A compensated bridge partially makes up for it, but until Feiten popularized it, there were very few people doing compensation at the nut (though it WAS done before he was even born), which would complete the equation.

Feiten takes it one step further by having meticulously calculated the amount of compensation required as you move from different guages of strings. Your guitar that's "Feitenized" with .10 at the high E string won't be perfectly compensated if you decide to switch to .11s. It WILL still help a bit, though, since there are certain factors that are pretty much universal (ie. that the G string usually requires the most compensation).

The other factor that can be related to piano tuning is the idea of tempering. As piano tuners know, a fully-completely "mathmatical" tuning using strict numerical relationships of the notes to one another rarely sounds 'correct' (and especially, doesn't sound 'pleasing') to the human ear. Other instruments have used tempered tunings for as long or longer than the piano, but of course the piano is the most well-known and significant example of tempered tuning in action.

Just blabbing...

This Strobe Tuner still looks awesome. The one Bluedad linked to looks even better, but a grand is out of my price range as a person who's not a piano tuner. :D Besides that, the guitar is an imperfect beast at best and that sort of precision won't get you much further than the Peterson will. Unless you get Steinberg or LSR 40:1 gear ratio tuners, you'd be hard-pressed to physically get your guitar that accurately to pitch; and with guitar strings being not only elastic, but prone to other changes (aging and corrosion from sweat will make your string more difficult to keep at one tuning) it wouldn't last longer than your first chord and solo anyhow. :D

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bluedad wrote:
lunch money wrote:What electronic device is used if not a strobe tuner, bluedad? Piano tuning is like black magic
eyeknow66 wrote:That would just be silly, using a computer tuner to tune a piano..........
I must be silly all day then!
I guess what I meant was you wouldn't plug a piano into the 1/4inch jack............ :)

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eyeknow666 wrote:
bluedad wrote:
lunch money wrote:What electronic device is used if not a strobe tuner, bluedad? Piano tuning is like black magic
eyeknow66 wrote:That would just be silly, using a computer tuner to tune a piano..........
I must be silly all day then!
I guess what I meant was you wouldn't plug a piano into the 1/4inch jack............ :)
no, but you might a mic...;)
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Ahh but is it VST?
If not then it's a shame.
What do you do? close the DAW to tune your guitar?

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it's a bit twitchy about that.

It is not a vst........but right now I have it working well with protools on.

I could not get it to work a bit earlier........I am still learning

One thing I noticed........"auto" sample rate doesn't work well when a host is on. I had to switch to 96.........

The more I use it, the more I like it :D

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morelia wrote:
eyeknow666 wrote:Oh well, I bought it

Let cha know if it's cool......... :)
Yes please let us know, that would be awsome.

How did the registration go?
Any cool alternate tunings?

Just for starters :wink:
There are too many alternate tunings to list, I tried open Db and G modal and they are fun......lot's of others

In tune? yes, I am surprised............


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Lunch Money wrote:What does pitch raise mode do?
ok, it's 3 am, I just got in from a gig..and I'm a bit
drunk, but I'll try to answer this.
well, the simple answer is: pitch raise mode allows me to start at the very bottom a and begin tuning very quickly to raise pitch. It tells me how sharp I should tune the string. So by the time I've yanked everything up quickly (which only takes 10-15 minutes to yank up 250 strings) then everyting has settled nicely very close to the correct pitch, so now I can go back and do a finer tuning.
(never ask a piano tuner a question like this)
You see, when you put tension on a string, it flexes the soundboard. So, if I just started tuning at pitch, by the time I got to the 88th note, everything below me would have already gone way flat again, just from the soundboard flexing. Pitch raise mode compensates for that and accurately calculates how sharp to pull the string. Even pianos 5-6 cents flat can have this situation. Virtually every piano I tune, I go through it with the pitch raise and then do a fine tuning. It's better for the piano, and more stable. Not to mention less stressful for the tuner.

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I seem to remember it saying something on the website about setting up the intonation. Is Strobosoft useful for that or am I mistaken?
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All of us who are interested in the Peterson should email them and tell them to make it VST. A standalone tuner on your PC makes no sense. [/frown].
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but, I do get it to work with a host on.........I guess I don't care as long as I can do that.

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What is the difference between the standard version and the premium version?
I mean I can read the feature list but why do I need the premium version?
Keep in mind I do not tune instruments for a living but would like to learn to set up intonation on my guitars better then I do now.
By the way my guitar tech is using the hardware version of Peterson and he says it's a must for any guitar tech.

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That's the question I'm wondering, Andrew...

Does the basic version have the alt tunings included?

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Frippertronix wrote:All of us who are interested in the Peterson should email them and tell them to make it VST. A standalone tuner on your PC makes no sense.
I did. they are making (most likely) a VST version, no release date or estimate.
The plug-in version is something we are looking into. At the moment, we are getting our Mac version ready for distribution. The plug-in version will be in development soon. As far as a specific launch date, I wouldn't be able to comment on that now. It will be a separate product and we are considering VST/AU versions. TDM has not been discussed but if the demand proves to be great, we will certainly consider it.
eyeknow666 wrote:but, I do get it to work with a host on.........I guess I don't care as long as I can do that.
I can't. No multi client (I think that's what they call it) soundcard.
JeffSanders wrote:That's the question I'm wondering, Andrew...

Does the basic version have the alt tunings included?
As far as I know, no. The basic version is just a tuner. No presets saving etc.

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