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origami · Post by **origami** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 12:55 am

the thing is I am interested in Samplerobot to sample the sounds from my hardware synth and then load them in a sampler.

BUT the thing is it is quite expensive actually.

Now, I was just thinking and I imagined this was possible...but maybe it isn't and it's a crazy idea, but since I can't try it right now I wanted to explain it here and maybe you can tell me if it's crazy or not.

I was thinking about Chainer, which is a program which samples the sounds from software synths. And then I thought...what if I open FL Studio with just a midi out plugin connected to the hardware synth...would it chainer then sample the sounds from the hardware synth?

I know maybe this is just stupid, but well...

lawapa · Post by **lawapa** » Sun Aug 21, 2005 2:23 am

I sample soft as well as hard synths all the time. And to be blunt I don't need any helper to do it. I do need software to edit and then keymap to sf2 thou. I guess you could call it doing it the ol fashioned way one note at a time. While I do use Sonar to set up the notes/length I'll need using midi. I do this because I can use any combination of patches/voices with efx to construct a sound without the cpu constraints of a hugh number of softsynths and hardware running.

Not what you wanted or asked for was it

origami · Post by **origami** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:41 am

thanks.

anyway, I tried today to do what i exposed in my post but it's impossible, it can't be done. it was a nice imagination, but not possible.

lawapa · Post by **lawapa** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:21 am

I don't know what host your using but if you have a synth sound you'd like to sample find the length of note you need to capture that sound. Start with the lowest note you'd think you'll need. Then transpose the note up 3 steps and keep going till you've got a set of notes starting with the lowest to the highest(leave a space between notes for the release of the note). then record the synth into your host playing back these notes. You now have a sample set that needs to be trimmed and cropped and named for the root and since you know the sequence of notes you recorded naming them is a snap. Once exported from your host you can load these up in any sampler and keymap. It's a pain but once you get going it's a piece of cake to master.

origami · Post by **origami** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 9:24 am

yes, it's a logical procedure. maybe I'll do it from now on.

a question for you, mate...do you usually resort to sampling the sounds from your hardware synths then? why do you do it? in which cases? etc...

thanks

lawapa · Post by **lawapa** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:21 am

I started sampling synths because Tassman used so much CPU I could not get past the bassline. As for external synths I've sampled from My sy99 because it's just so much more convenient to have these in my computer than to set up the ol 99 to run. It also has a limited polyphony so I could get voice stealing in a heavy sequence. Not so in my computer. It also saves on cpu when you have 3 or 4 synths running for one voice. So I was exploring the possibilities, did the deed as a learning experience

origami · Post by **origami** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:54 am

thanks mate

rounser · Post by **rounser** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:23 am

Do a search for VDumper on this forum and download the latest version. It does what you want chainer to do with hardware, and doesn't cost a thing (unlike samplerobot).

Link-Devine-Machine · Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:31 am

OSR is your exact solution :
http://www.devine-machine.com/newsite/index.html

OneShot Recorder coming soon for easy sample recording lovers !

Instead of recording in your DAW or sound editor and have hard and boring time in cut/export , O.S.R will do everything automatically !

FEATURE LIST :
- VST Effect, just insert in your FX chain to record
- 128 Slots for record , MIDI triggerable, AUTO advance after each hit record,
- Advanced 2 thresholds system (GATE and TRIG) , for lossless recordings
- Export with extra info on pitch (32 bit wav file format, any samplerate)
- Normalizing functions
- Reorder functions by :
* PEAK
* RMS
* LENGTH
* DATE
* NOTE
- 131072 FFT band analyse for note detection
- detected MIDI note written as infos in exported wav file

MULTISAMPLING :
OSR is perfectly suited for any kind of recording, or sampling session. Multisample is made easy using MIDI input selection. Automated MIDI external hardware multisample can be automated.

OSR is also suited to built huge sample libraries the easy way.

O.S.R. will be available soon in PC/MAC VST format.

origami · Post by **origami** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:29 pm

rounser, the thing is I think I downloaded the latest version of VDumper. I remember I installed one of the earlier versions but it crashed my host. I downloaded the latest but never installed it. gotta try it. thanks a lot.

yes it seems one shot recorder is what i need too, but it isn't available. will it be free? how much will it cost?

thx

rounser · Post by **rounser** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:36 pm

I remember I installed one of the earlier versions but it crashed my host.

Yeah same, in an earlier version it was a) not working and b) bluescreening me so I deleted it. The latest version seems to work and be stable (on my machine), though, so it may be worth another look.

origami · Post by **origami** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:38 pm

yes the same happened to me. I have a file called vd04pi. is that the latest version?

rounser · Post by **rounser** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:53 pm

Not sure that it is; the one working for me is named vd041.rar

origami · Post by **origami** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 11:04 pm

yeah you're right, I've just downloaded that version you mention. however, on the negative side, I've read in that same post that it can't still sample external synths...

sampling hardware synths...is the following a crazy idea?