Line 6 Goes Plug-In?

[Lunch Money]

I'd love an XT with the extra amp models.

I didn't know the Adrenalinn had amp sim, too! I thought it was just a combination drum machine and multi-effects (but creative effects like weird delays, not amp sims). Gotta check it....

The crunch tones of the Behringer GDI21 are actually pretty good, if crunch is your thang.

Greg

[Trojan Badger]

Yes, me too. For me (normally a guitarist) the mic preamp stuff sounds intriguing.

TB, have you tried the line six editor? (not soundiver)

No, I use a Digitech RP-20. Often considered moving to software, but my keyboard player uses my laptop now for B4 so I'd need to rig up another PC (from where?!!), together with MIDI interface, MIDI controller, etc etc etc - so as I said I reckon for live I have to stick with hardware. And I know one day I'll have to install RP-Edit to be able to program my RP-20 which is simply impossible to program natively.

[Niek]

I still do not understand why everyone likes Line 6. every commercial thing they heve ever released besides their variax guitars is terrible.
anyone tried the pedals and compared them to BOSS? they cost more and sound much worse! their amps sound nearly half as well as the Behringers (that also run on computershit)... ever tried their rackstuff? you can get nicer for less money.
the idea that Line 6 is going to make plugin's sounds horrible to me.

PS. their POD was a good thing though, if you do not have the knowledge/money to mic up your amp, it works well. but real amps sound better.

[Lawnmower Of The Damned]

I still do not understand why everyone likes Line 6. every commercial thing they heve ever released besides their variax guitars is terrible.
anyone tried the pedals and compared them to BOSS? they cost more and sound much worse! their amps sound nearly half as well as the Behringers (that also run on computershit)... ever tried their rackstuff? you can get nicer for less money.
the idea that Line 6 is going to make plugin's sounds horrible to me.

PS. their POD was a good thing though, if you do not have the knowledge/money to mic up your amp, it works well. but real amps sound better.

The massive number of multi-platinum albums made with a Pod goes to show that it doesn't matter. Most every band has a Line 6 amp in their collection, many of them use it as their only amp.

I could easily list 2 dozen bands with great amp sounds that use a Pod. It may not suit your needs (And that's fine. Different strokes for different folks) but to call them terrible is just wrong.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go play my Vetta.

[bduffy]

I agree with Lawnmower. I struggled with the 'fuzziness' of the POD when I first bought it (despite knowing how to mic and amp), but before I knew it, I was getting compliments on my tone - and that was when I was only going straight into an Audigy! It reminds me that you have to get used to any new gear and "make it your own" (painfully breaking in a new pair of Sony headphones as we speak!).

Now that I go through a proper pre, I get even better tone and I don't miss messing with microphones at all.

[Hink]

I still do not understand why everyone likes Line 6. every commercial thing they heve ever released besides their variax guitars is terrible.
anyone tried the pedals and compared them to BOSS? they cost more and sound much worse! their amps sound nearly half as well as the Behringers (that also run on computershit)... ever tried their rackstuff? you can get nicer for less money.
the idea that Line 6 is going to make plugin's sounds horrible to me.

PS. their POD was a good thing though, if you do not have the knowledge/money to mic up your amp, it works well. but real amps sound better.

well of course that's all purely subjective...but what does money have to do with mic-ing an amp?....I mean a sure sm57 is still around 100 bux...whch is cheaper then a pod. Also I dont see where knowledge fits in, isn't stickining a mic in front of an amp pretty easy to do. Perhaps multi mic-ing techniques (like a condensor futher away from the amp) might be a little more complicated but doubtfully it would be that hard for anyone who already knows what they like in sound and can play.

I am curious why there are people who say Line six sux and they feel they need to try to convince everyone that it sux. On the other side of the coin I dont see any POD that says mic-ing an amp is not good. Though I gotta say it depends on you r amp to begin with, so not only does what you say not really make sense too me it also seems like it's a very blanketed statement as well.

For instance, and again this is purely subjective, but I have always despised the sound of the old Peavey amps, I'm not real impressed with the newer ones either but they are better then what Peavey sold for over twenty years. (But I am only talking guitar amps, the bass amps, keyboard amps and pa gear has always been good).

I certainly dont see as many POD owners trying to convince everyone that they should never mic up their amp. So why is that? It really confuses me, I mean I could go buy a Vetta head anytime I want. But I have more then the cost of that tied up in my rack. But if you read back you'll see there is a good reason for me not mic-ing it.

I can say for the person like me that doesn't have other people involved in the process of making music Line six, or other amp sims are great. I can go months between sessions on a song and you'd never know it cause I can save my settings (either in POD or on my pc). However I love the the sound of my Sansamp GT2, but if I changed the settings I would snap a pic of the settings. However my ears are sensitive enough enough to hear the difference, so I often would re-do many parts which is time consuming.

So my question is why do so many want to dis Line six? IMO it's all about art and creativity, I would never judge someones use of older Peavey amps if they got the sound they like. Why do people want to judge music that POD is used? I dont get it...

[dimitar]

I want to say: It's a NEW AGE
I own Real - Full Tube AMP /Carvin Lehgacy / and a lot of "Soft" Amps

And I realy Love Simianalog AMP
and Amplitube!

there is nothing wrong to love something new what
do great work for you!

here is my favorite solo sound I say "mine" not yours
and its only Simuanalog JCM
http://dimitar.audioshot.net/orpheusnew ... master.mp3


Regards,Dimitar

[bduffy]

I want to say: It's a NEW AGE
I own Real - Full Tube AMP /Carvin Lehgacy / and a lot of "Soft" Amps

And I realy Love Simianalog AMP
and Amplitube!

there is nothing wrong to love something new what
do great work for you!

here is my favorite solo sound I say "mine" not yours
and its only Simuanalog JCM
http://dimitar.audioshot.net/orpheusnew ... master.mp3


Regards,Dimitar

You are son of Yngwie! I wouldn't think that was an amp sim for a second.

[dimitar]

I wouldn't think that was an amp sim for a second.

This is my fundamental idea!

[bmanic]

The simuanalog plugin run at 96khz actually sounds way better than the Pod XT. IMHO of course. I just love the idea of having a small portable unit that could give me all the tones I want. Well, maybe Amplitube 2 + a small laptop would do in the future?

- bManic

[dimitar]

Well, maybe Amplitube 2 + a small laptop would do in the future?
- bManic

definitely!

[bmanic]

Btw. hearing that mp3 clip makes me wanna post this link:

http://www.guitarshredshow.com/

probably old news but check it out. Stylish as hell!

- bManic

[dimitar]

Here is another favorite tone
with free AX-84 High Octane )))
http://www.cmusicforum.com/dimitar/HighOctane.mp3

Another great "tube" amp!

[dimitar]

Btw. hearing that mp3 clip makes me wanna post this link:

http://www.guitarshredshow.com/

probably old news but check it out. Stylish as hell!

- bManic

hohoo:) Yeaah this guy rock!!

[ugo]

I didn't know the Adrenalinn had amp sim, too! I thought it was just a combination drum machine and multi-effects (but creative effects like weird delays, not amp sims). Gotta check it....

actually the amp models are a very big deal in the adrenalinn, they arent just tacked on. they are equally important as the effects...argueably more so, depending on the type of player you are. (the drums seemed kind of tacked on to me though.)

-ugo