my bloody valentine (limited pitch shifting...)

[rpc9943]

just wondering is there any really easy free pitchbenders that can set how deep the pitchbend can go? i want to make similar fx as MBV's loveless, without the extreme amount of pitchbend that is used on my keyboard. Something I can limit.

Just wondering

[rpc9943]

lemme elaborate:

an audio pitch bend that limits the max to diffent subtleties, such as -2semi, -1 semi. etc

someone like tweekbench could easily do this, im sure... and call it loveless or something cool

RonC

[rpc9943]

anyone?



RonC

[mute]

I dont see what this has to do with MBV (except maybe the short track 'touched'), but I suppose you mean a pitchshifter .. not pitchbend.....? Many pitchshifters have an amount (-/+) param and a semitone/pitch param. Set the semi/pitch where you want it then control the amount, that would give you a limited range.

If you're talking about the pitchbend range on a synth, you could use a midi-vst envelope (or several other options) to set your value ranges - and control that, it in turn controlling the synth or whatever to your specified ranges.

[rpc9943]

okay what pitchshifter would you think?

i know its not really mbv but you know how they used the whammy bar on their guitars to make things bendy... i'd like to do the same with my pitchwheel on my keyboard, hook it through a neat pitchshifter that can do ranges.... so what freeware pitchshifter can do this

RoNC

[dee ess pee]

most synths can set pitch shift range

[rpc9943]

i dont want synth

its about using a plugin to do it as an effect. like a menu that lets you set the limits...

?

RonC

[Trojan Badger]

I know what you're on about - all over the Loveless album the guitars seem to dip in pitch and then return to source pitch. Now I expect mostly this was done at source using a whammy bar, but there may be some kind of real-time controllable pitchshifter. Be aware though that this you will have to use a really good one not to get artefacts. If you can't find one, build one in Reaktor I guess. The important thing about using it loveless-style is to be able to turn the detune knob in real-time and save it as an automation curve.

[rpc9943]

i just think it'd be fun to put on some guitar tracks... just for fun, i mean its such a low amount of pitchshifting that i dont think it would sound all that bad.... right?
RonC

[Barbed Wire Kiss]

I've been for a pitchshifting effect like this for a long time.

It looks like it would have to be modelled, as the effect of the movement of the whammy bar is to bend the pitch of each string separately. So if you were to apply this to chords played on a synth each individual note would have to have their own pitch envelope, as they need to be bent by different amounts, at different times and for different lengths of time. All depending on the speed and depth the bar is moved.

[Barbed Wire Kiss]

BTW Loveless would be a great name.

[rpc9943]

yeah well i mean it would just be freaking cool to have something that could make a wavy kind of arrraa aarrraa sound even on vocals!

RoNC

[shamann]

For that kind of effect, you actually want the warping you get from slowing/speeding the audio, so a pitchshifter really isn't what you're after. You could try a modulated delay, just assign a modwheel/cc controller to the delay. You'll need a delay with a proper analog/tape delay implementation.

Easiest way is to just use the pitchbend function offline in an audio editor on a mix. Most editors let you draw in a pitchbend envelope.

A third alternative would be tBt's Tapestop. Play around with the controls, see if you can get a slight pitchbend.

[Barbed Wire Kiss]

Hmm, that'll teach me not to skim read a thread. Your requirements are a bit looser than mine. This is obvious, but have you been through the database?

[bduffy]

We're talking about just modulating the pitch of a signal? There has to be something that'll do that..!