how to remove the guitar from the track?

[Hovmod]

Is this what it's become, KvR, where newbies are ridiculed whenever they ask a question more seasoned users think are too dumb?

Didn't we all at some point started out where we knew nothing and needed to consult other people for their knowledge?

I understand your concerns, but I think you missed this thread which had basically a simular question asked by the same poster Mr Moriz.

Besides, if you look around, ridiculing newbies who ask question seasoned users think are too dumb is only one of many regular activities here at KvR, and actually helping newbies who ask dumb questions is probably on the top ten list.

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Is this what it's become, KvR, where newbies are ridiculed whenever they ask a question more seasoned users think are too dumb?

Didn't we all at some point started out where we knew nothing and needed to consult other people for their knowledge?

I understand your concerns, but I think you missed this thread which had basically a simular question asked by the same poster Mr Moriz.

Besides, if you look around, ridiculing newbies who ask question seasoned users think are too dumb is only one of many regular activities here at KvR, and actually helping newbies who ask dumb questions is probably on the top ten list.

I think some people can't understand sarcasm, the also don't stop and think that even a sarcastic post that doesn't help in a direct way still bumps the thread up and keep it visible for more to answer. Certainly sarcastic responses do not hurt anyone, at least not anyone with a sense of humor.

Not too mention he starts off with praise for the help he got in the other thread...I think some should spend less time reading between the lines and try comprehending what the post is actually saying, and perhaps being so judgemental of KVR...

[Z]

At least every forthnight somebody here asks weather it is possible to remove X from a song,

That often, huh? Wow.

and the answers are always the same. PC's can't do (yet!) what your brain does effortless: isolate the instruments.

That's my point, why not say that instead of ridiculing whoever ask the question even if its the same over and over again?

Hmmm, maybe I should tell my friends who ask me to teach them how to play the guitar that all of their questions are really stupid and they should know the answers to them before they approached me. I'm sure that'll help them in becoming better guitar players.

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you know....maybe they should include a search on the forums to save time

[Niek]

"and the answers are always the same. PC's can't do (yet!) what your brain does effortless: isolate the instruments." is not totaly right. there is a high advanced piece of technology that is capable of truly extracting 1 instrument from a song. (but it is still in progress and not commercial available for the next few years.) it was actualy developed to delete noise in pictures, but then they found out, it might also work on audio... that is al I know about it... so you will have to wait a few years :p... (and than I do not even know if the results are good)

[bitcrusher]

Anything the brain can do, a computer should be able to do better...

but can you really isolate an instrument with the brain, or is than an illusion?

I say its merely an illusion. The more you know what a guitar sounds like the more you can *imagine* what the guitar is doing, but you can't actually really hear *just* the guitar..

I heard some sound-separation examples at MIT media lab many years ago, but I must say I was unimpressed. The amount of artifacts were huge. If a sound has a unique position in the stereo field, there's potential for *some* extraction, but its really a case-by-case basis.

[stilaktive]

"and the answers are always the same. PC's can't do (yet!) what your brain does effortless: isolate the instruments." is not totaly right. there is a high advanced piece of technology that is capable of truly extracting 1 instrument from a song. (but it is still in progress and not commercial available for the next few years.) it was actualy developed to delete noise in pictures, but then they found out, it might also work on audio... that is al I know about it... so you will have to wait a few years :p... (and than I do not even know if the results are good)

give me links, i want to know about this, or is it too underground to have info on it within the internet?

[Niek]

I have not found it on the internet... got it from a Dutch magazine...

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Anything the brain can do, a computer should be able to do better...

but can you really isolate an instrument with the brain, or is than an illusion?

I say its merely an illusion. The more you know what a guitar sounds like the more you can *imagine* what the guitar is doing, but you can't actually really hear *just* the guitar..

I heard some sound-separation examples at MIT media lab many years ago, but I must say I was unimpressed. The amount of artifacts were huge. If a sound has a unique position in the stereo field, there's potential for *some* extraction, but its really a case-by-case basis.

I think you're right, except for the word illusion...perhaps perception is tad more accurate...what cracks me up is people watch csi, xee them remove this, remove that until they hear some tiny insignificant noise that breaks the case...I've had people ask me if I can do that...