(slightly OT) eXT running on Fedora

[moonlite]

most things in the linux environment are actually better than what windows progs have to offer. imho. but that's not the reason. i just love geeking around in linux =) .. that's the whole point. if i weren't such a geek i wouldn't touch linux.

oh, and i hate windows. i hate that window's not built to be repaired, but to be re-installed. i hate the registry, i hate the concept, i hate the way it works.

but this is of course only a matter of taste.

linux has just been lacking software for /serious/ audio production. as i said, that's the only reason that's been keeping windows on my desktop ...

if ext were to be ported to linux, this would be solved, but i doubt my waves' plugs or reaktor (which of both are essential to me) would run on it. (ext + waves doesn't even work on windows)

[pwdm]

+1 for linux version

[moonlite]

hmm, what and how would you actually run on it?

i mean, what would /you/ actually do with it?

(just curious)

[atomota]

linux has just been lacking software for /serious/ audio production. as i said, that's the only reason that's been keeping windows on my desktop ...

Likewise, the only reason I have Windows on a machine at all is to run audio. Microsoft is much better at making money (at our expense) than they are at writing software. And I gave up on Apple years ago when I realized in disgust that they would rather spend time making things look fancy instead of making sure the power cord didn't catch on fire.

So I wouldn't mind having eXT on Linux, but after doing a reality check considering all the other neato audio software I use runs on Windows, and the VST guis expect Windows, and I don't really want to mess with emulators, and creating and supporting a Linux version would probably spread Jorgen even thinner, and that my next computer will probably ship with Windows anyway, I guess in the balance I'd be just as happy running eXT on Windows.

That's kind of hard for me to admit because I've been running Linux since 1993 and I'm a former kernel hacker, but there it is.

[moonlite]

exactly =(

the only hope would be that ext on linux would have an EXPLOSIVE effect on development of audio tools on linux .. in my case, vst:s or the like.

but i guess it wouldn't, since it seems hard enough to get some people to port their vst's to mac ..

i could even skip the small, windows-only-ones, too, if something like Native /and/ Waves would port .... but i guess that's even more unlikely.

=(

BUT, if jörgen got got some devs, like voxengo, the smartelectronix guys, kjaerhus, the synthedit guy(s?) in on it simultaneously, it could very well get big.

actually, on second thougth, it might be enough if syntedit went linux! think of what would happen if synthedit would be compiled to linux simultaneously! .. so that if you've built a synth on windows, you could with the same "source" (whatever it's called in synthedit. never used it) to easily compile the same plug as linux-compatible ... think of the HUGE amount of SE devs ... now THIS /would/ be enough to launch linux into an audio platform and other devs would follow.

now we just need to make this happen ,)

someone voulenteer to harass devs until they give up and release linux binaries? ,D

[Improv]

I use xp, linux and osx on a daily basis and I must say linux is my favorite.

So, Im not the only one wanting a binary (no compiling needed) linux verison then?

jorgen

Another vote here for a linux version. Apart from getting away from MS, you can customize the linux system for audio by only installing audio progs that you want. As well, the kernel can strip out parts that you don't want (say networking) and then recompile
a smaller, faster more efficient linux kernel. No more winbloat!

[moonlite]

hmm, what and how would you actually run on it?

i mean, what would /you/ actually do with it?

(just curious)

i want to reiterate that i ment: which plugs would you want to run on the linux version of ext?

[anselmoso]

+1 for linux version over here

[pwdm]

For a start you can pump the midi out of XT into a number of linux based synths,modules and drummachines.
What with the jack system on linux its so easy to shuffle around audio and midi a sorta rewire for linux.
Also there are a few vst which run in a wrapper on linux..(will find the list later,no time at the mo).

[farlukar]

hehe

[SleepyP]

Jeff (the author of SynthEdit) is busy with the Windows version of SynthEdit ATM and has no plans to port SE to OSX or Linux, or even for making SE an opensource project, so don't hold your breath.

[jorgen]

vstgui is not for windows only, its also for mac so it is crossplatform. It would not be a problem to port the vstgui to linux either.

you also dont need to use the vstgui, I have never used it in any vsts myself. The host simply passes a handle to a "system" window when it tells the plugin to open its editor, then the plugin can choose to use the vstgui or make his own gui toolkit.

I will make an example vst with a xlib (X11) editor when eXT is ready for the publics on linux.



jorgen

[Caleb]

Hmmmm - there is something quite attractive about the idea of having EnergyXT on Linux. But I can't help thinking that the majority of plugins I use SR/IK, WusikStation/ManyStation, so on, so on, so on... won't run on Linux. Is my understanding correct?

And I have grave doubts that my Creamware cards will run on Linux also.

Have I got this right?

It's a pity, because you'd probably looking at a system where the core is bloody rock solid.

Still - it might still be a good idea to look at a reasonably priced box for a Linux installation for "live" purposes. Convert the stuff you want to use into audio files or XT Sampler patches and swap across to your Linux box and create the whole set. Then you're rock solid and ready for the world.

Maybe people who have been studying this whole Linux thing can update me on what really is possible these days....if you'd be so kind.

Caleb

[anselmoso]

Hmmmm - there is something quite attractive about the idea of having EnergyXT on Linux. But I can't help thinking that the majority of plugins I use SR/IK, WusikStation/ManyStation, so on, so on, so on... won't run on Linux. Is my understanding correct?

And I have grave doubts that my Creamware cards will run on Linux also.

Have I got this right?

It's a pity, because you'd probably looking at a system where the core is bloody rock solid.

Still - it might still be a good idea to look at a reasonably priced box for a Linux installation for "live" purposes. Convert the stuff you want to use into audio files or XT Sampler patches and swap across to your Linux box and create the whole set. Then you're rock solid and ready for the world.

Maybe people who have been studying this whole Linux thing can update me on what really is possible these days....if you'd be so kind.

Caleb

you can see here, which vst plugins are running on linux:

http://www.djcj.org/LAU/ladspavst/

which soundcards are supported under linux is viewable here:

http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/

[Radek]

If there is something I want most it would be complete midi/audio host for Linux. Ext has a sampler, audio parts, seqencer, midi utilities (arp, chord generator, etc) and soon even fm synth! So it's usefull program on its own and really if I wanted some flavor in vst/vsti then always is dualboot and import audio.

I'm sitting in Linux for my every other tasks and constantly rebooting system gets too tiresome.

Sorry to say but I'm getting for all this plethora of vsts tired too. All I need is semimodular workstation like Ext, few sounds generators, few effects, different time signatures in seq (3/4,5/4,6/8,etc.)
I even would learn whole Ext (for now I'm using it mostly as utility) to be not tied to windows. I would pay for such upgrade and do it gratefully.