Hey.
Right, well, Im a Sonar user and use it with NI Battery for my beats usually. I got Reason 2.5 about 6 months ago and havent really used it much.
I was doing some Reason video tutorials and came across drum tuning, which led me to an experiment where I made a bassline with a drum groove, and another project with the same bassline and drum groove, only the drum hits finely tuned to match the bassline.
I was astonished to find the difference in feel to be so great. The project with the tuned drums just sounded so much more polished and driven. Thats not to say that the other one sounded "wrong" as such, only not as nice as the one with the tuned drums.
So heres my question. Is tuning drums common practive in all genres? If not, what genres would it be more prevelant in? Im presuming house/hip-hop etc..
Also, I found tuning the drums very quick and easy in Reason, compared to attemtping same in NI Battery while a loop runs in Sonar. Im not a massive fan of Reason, or indeed of rewiring Reason to Sonar, but am starting to appreciate Reason more than ever before.
So do you guys all tune your drum hits?
Is there a VST drum module which makes for quick and easy drum tuning, redrum style? Im thinking perhaps Guru.
Id be chuffed if anyone would care to discuss this.
TIA
womoma
tuning drum hits- .. easier in Reason? what do YOU do??
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- KVRist
- 178 posts since 27 Dec, 2004 from Dublin, Ireland
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- KVRian
- 1398 posts since 9 Dec, 2002
Every since I realized it years ago, I've been tuning the drums 99% of the time - but I tend to use a lot of 909 style sounds (electronic kicks and hats mostly) and it just makes everything smoother, the sound and the mixing...
I also tend to tune snares as well if they contain enough to pitch information to have a noticeable pitch.
Sometimes it takes some work though to maintain the original characteristics after tuning, as I tend to select sounds previewing them in-context and choosing the most suitable ones without listening to their pitch.
As for commenting which VST things make it as easy as Reason, that's a tad harder. All I can say is that no matter with what host or plugin I'm working, there's always a pitch knob or similar method for quickly tuning the drums... (I'd say though that my experience with FL Studio demo has shown that it's extremly nice in FL as you can tune the drums so fast with the keyboard part in the channel settings. As for Guru, I'm scared of trying it out as I'm financially stretched and don't want to be tempted by more things right now than I already am
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Regards,
JMH
I also tend to tune snares as well if they contain enough to pitch information to have a noticeable pitch.
Sometimes it takes some work though to maintain the original characteristics after tuning, as I tend to select sounds previewing them in-context and choosing the most suitable ones without listening to their pitch.
As for commenting which VST things make it as easy as Reason, that's a tad harder. All I can say is that no matter with what host or plugin I'm working, there's always a pitch knob or similar method for quickly tuning the drums... (I'd say though that my experience with FL Studio demo has shown that it's extremly nice in FL as you can tune the drums so fast with the keyboard part in the channel settings. As for Guru, I'm scared of trying it out as I'm financially stretched and don't want to be tempted by more things right now than I already am
)Regards,
JMH
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753 - KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
Even live drums are tuned for each song in most cases. so the answer is yes, its a standard practice.
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- KVRAF
- 6937 posts since 4 Jun, 2004 from Utrecht, Holland
Singer says to public: "OK guys, now our drummer will have to retune his kit again since our next song is in B Flat. So grab a pint at the bar, and see you back in five minutes or so"Stupid American Pig wrote:Even live drums are tuned for each song in most cases. so the answer is yes, its a standard practice.
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Stupid American Pig Stupid American Pig https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4753
- KVRAF
- 7065 posts since 25 Nov, 2002 from not sure
mebbe for live performances, but for recording, most people extensively tune drums...C00kie wrote:Singer says to public: "OK guys, now our drummer will have to retune his kit again since our next song is in B Flat. So grab a pint at the bar, and see you back in five minutes or so"Stupid American Pig wrote:Even live drums are tuned for each song in most cases. so the answer is yes, its a standard practice.
Killing your performance instantly....
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 178 posts since 27 Dec, 2004 from Dublin, Ireland
Thanks for the posts, this is an interesting thread.
Cookie and SAP- yeah i figured drums recorded in a studio would be tuned for their tracks. Perhaps some bands dont tune their drums to match the key, for a grungier sound? This is just a guess.
Most of the work I do is house and chillout.
I have found that tuning drums in Battery 2 whilst the loop plays, can give rise to dropouts, even with latency settings tweaked. I am considering using Reason rewired to Sonar in future, although this is hardly ideal.
Anyways, Ill keep experimenting until I find the workflow which suits my needs. Thanks again for the posts.
me too.I tend to select sounds previewing them in-context and choosing the most suitable ones without listening to their pitch.
me too.As for Guru, I'm scared of trying it out as I'm financially stretched and don't want to be tempted by more things right now than I already am
Cookie and SAP- yeah i figured drums recorded in a studio would be tuned for their tracks. Perhaps some bands dont tune their drums to match the key, for a grungier sound? This is just a guess.
Most of the work I do is house and chillout.
I have found that tuning drums in Battery 2 whilst the loop plays, can give rise to dropouts, even with latency settings tweaked. I am considering using Reason rewired to Sonar in future, although this is hardly ideal.
Anyways, Ill keep experimenting until I find the workflow which suits my needs. Thanks again for the posts.