Understanding the benifits of Sonars Dxi

[Stairsteps]

The DXi (DX Instruments) standard offers the following powerful benefits:

A software synth plug-in standard designed and optimized specifically for responsive, low-latency playback on the Windows platform.
Quickly patch DXi-compatible soft synths on tracks and use them within DXi host applications.
Route MIDI tracks to DXi soft synths or run synths as stand-alone tone generators.
Control and play synths in real-time using their internal interface or external MIDI devices like keyboards, guitar synths, or wind controllers.
Patch audio effects to synth outputs.
Route DXi synth output through auxiliary sends.
Record DXi synth output to audio tracks.
Save DXi synth settings within SONAR projects.
Provides reliable, responsive, Windows thread-safe soft synth processing in multi-threaded applications like SONAR and Fruity Loops 3.0.
More accurate automation. DXi soft synth automation can be graphically and intuitively edited using smooth line-segments and curves as envelope data. Through this, DXi offers automation with up to 100-nanosecond accuracy.
Other formats rely on SYSEX, which is cumbersome and difficult to edit.
DXi synths can provide names for banks, notes, controllers, NRPNs and RPNs. This allows user-friendly MIDI- based control of the DXi soft synth or transformer.
No limit on the number of simultaneous soft synths or automatable parameters.
DXi-based transformers can be used as MIDI-controlled audio processors, such as vocoders, intelligent pitch shifters, or tempo-based delays.
DXi synths can have access to the tempo, key, and meter-maps of their host applications. This allows a synth to more efficiently handle transitions for tempo-based or key-based processing.
DXi allows for offline processing within the host application.
DXi synths are multiprocessor ready.

[Funkybot]

Ok, I got one:

DXi does not allow for sending midi out, making certain key features of several plug-ins useless.

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applications like SONAR and Fruity Loops 3.0.

3.0......

[dougsyo]

The DXi (DX Instruments) standard offers the following powerful benefits:
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I don't even get the purpose of this post, other than it was apparently the dumping grounds for some stuff pasted from a Cakewalk or other forum.

As long as VSTI is THE standard, don't count on a lot of "primarily DXI" instruments, except from Cakewalk. And as much as I like Sonar, the VSTI wrappers (DirectIXer and Cakewalk's) both leave something to be desired at times.

Doug

[;-)]

The DXi (DX Instruments) standard offers the following powerful benefits:
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I don't even get the purpose of this post, other than it was apparently the dumping grounds for some stuff pasted from a Cakewalk or other forum.

As long as VSTI is THE standard, don't count on a lot of "primarily DXI" instruments, except from Cakewalk. And as much as I like Sonar, the VSTI wrappers (DirectIXer and Cakewalk's) both leave something to be desired at times.

Doug

I guess, he also noted some regression with the DXi standard...

I can remember as they (Sonar people) wrote all possible VST developers an e-mail, offerring the DXi development (as being sooo much better ...) in that manner as above.
I always get very suspiciousness with such "comments".


Cakewalk was the very first sequencer I used on the PC. I loved it. It was powerfull.

Whatsoever. They did sleep (deeply) at a certain point. The point was as the new area of DAWs was born: VST.

They simply lost by reacting too late to the digital audio connection of their MIDI sequencer and also lost by not implementing the VST (or even any better!) standard natively. Instead they used an old Microsoft concept - but very very late too...

I switched to Cubase (while they sleeped) finally, of course. Never regretted for some reasons.


And if you look at that omnipotent DXi SDK you get a crisis. It is cumbersome, cryptic and unintuitive. Probably like all ActiveX SDKs...
"Why doing it easy, if it is also possible to do highly complicated and cryptic in native Microsoft and platform specific manner".

It is in fact not easy to concentrate to the audio kernel of your development with all those template shit and ActiveX dependencies arround.

And also a fact, that most plugin developers use a kinda "wrapper" internally to provide their plugins as DXi too for some certain reasons. The main development is done with and for the VST standard.

I think, DXi was and still is a bad idea. Produces more problems than features. Otherwise it would have won the run already, right?

It dies therefore, justified.

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[Stairsteps]

The purpose is to inform you of the benifits hence the title of the post
I didnt say Dxi was better but im glad to have both running in my host Vst and Dxi stuff. I was posting this cause a poster asked whats Dxi mean but i lost the post when i looked it up and came back
But from now on I'll make sure to clear my posts thru Doug first
hes here to tell us all what we should post and what we shouldnt i guess
but its all good and yes this is directley from cakewalks manuel so i guess its a little biased but to tell you the truth Ive never had a problem with Dxi stuff, and im LOVING THE HELL outta DIMENSION lol take that Cubase, Logic and anyone else who dosent have access to Sonar4 and Dimension Muhahahah.
"slaps himself on the back"

And if you read the title of the post and didnt get the purpose wtf are you on here commenting for then I mean go find the other million posts on here and find your niche.

[Left Headphone]

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The purpose is to inform you of the benifits hence the title of the post
I didnt say Dxi was better but im glad to have both running in my host Vst and Dxi stuff. I was posting this cause a poster asked whats Dxi mean but i lost the post when i looked it up and came back
But from now on I'll make sure to clear my posts thru Doug first
hes here to tell us all what we should post and what we shouldnt i guess
but its all good and yes this is directley from cakewalks manuel so i guess its a little biased but to tell you the truth Ive never had a problem with Dxi stuff, and im LOVING THE HELL outta DIMENSION lol take that Cubase, Logic and anyone else who dosent have access to Sonar4 and Dimension Muhahahah.
"slaps himself on the back"

And if you didnt read the title and didnt get the purpose wtf are you on here commenting for then I mean go find the other million posts on here and find your niche.

yeah but look dude, either you're from cakewalk (if so Tom?) or you just copied and pasted that...useful info we can use, however there is a thread a little furthe down about the next release FL6. So how are we suppose to believe that the rest of what you say is any more recent?...

[;-)]

@Stairsteps:
I think, your real intent is to bitch on people not using Sonar.

But as I said. I went the "Cakewalk" way from the very first steps of their software - years ago.

On the other side, I don't use it anymore for some reasons. Since years now. But I always did try to look and switch back to the roots (remembering the good old times prior VST) ...

With no success so far. For some reasons, by the way.

Sadly.

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[Stairsteps]

The purpose is to inform you of the benifits hence the title of the post
I didnt say Dxi was better but im glad to have both running in my host Vst and Dxi stuff. I was posting this cause a poster asked whats Dxi mean but i lost the post when i looked it up and came back
But from now on I'll make sure to clear my posts thru Doug first
hes here to tell us all what we should post and what we shouldnt i guess
but its all good and yes this is directley from cakewalks manuel so i guess its a little biased but to tell you the truth Ive never had a problem with Dxi stuff, and im LOVING THE HELL outta DIMENSION lol take that Cubase, Logic and anyone else who dosent have access to Sonar4 and Dimension Muhahahah.
"slaps himself on the back"

And if you didnt read the title and didnt get the purpose wtf are you on here commenting for then I mean go find the other million posts on here and find your niche.

yeah but look dude, either you're from cakewalk (if so Tom?) or you just copied and pasted that...useful info we can use, however there is a thread a little furthe down about the next release FL6. So how are we suppose to believe that the rest of what you say is any more recent?...

I wasnt proclaming it to be the most recent news or anything and im sure you wernt the guy asking what Dxi was earlier which I lost so I posted a new topic so he could find it. but I dont give a rats ass about Dxi or Vst being better or not I just wanted to show the person what it stands for and yes as ive said above "this is directley from cakewalks web site" and its as recent as 2 hours ago , so blame them for not mentioning FL6 lol personally I dont use FL even though I have a free copy bundled with my soundcard. So whats your point agian?
this is not debate material its directley from cakewalk so take your problems up with them lol.

@ooo: isnt your purpose on here is to bitch on how youre not using Sonar4 anymore no matter how many times you went back to it, I mean all I did was start the post with some specs directly from cakewalk with no comment by me what so ever but i attract a buzz on ppl saying im putting ppl down who use vst or something? Yo bro check yourself before ya wreck yourself its all good ok we love DXI we LOVE VST I even like FL and cubase and Logic but I use the old ugly ass Sonar 4 for most of my work in case you had to know and yes im amazed by dimension its worth the price of Project 5 and Sonar 4 alone its that good.

So you dont use Sonar 4 anymore so stop your bitching already

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The purpose is to inform you of the benifits hence the title of the post
I didnt say Dxi was better but im glad to have both running in my host Vst and Dxi stuff. I was posting this cause a poster asked whats Dxi mean but i lost the post when i looked it up and came back
But from now on I'll make sure to clear my posts thru Doug first
hes here to tell us all what we should post and what we shouldnt i guess
but its all good and yes this is directley from cakewalks manuel so i guess its a little biased but to tell you the truth Ive never had a problem with Dxi stuff, and im LOVING THE HELL outta DIMENSION lol take that Cubase, Logic and anyone else who dosent have access to Sonar4 and Dimension Muhahahah.
"slaps himself on the back"

And if you didnt read the title and didnt get the purpose wtf are you on here commenting for then I mean go find the other million posts on here and find your niche.

yeah but look dude, either you're from cakewalk (if so Tom?) or you just copied and pasted that...useful info we can use, however there is a thread a little furthe down about the next release FL6. So how are we suppose to believe that the rest of what you say is any more recent?...

I wasnt proclaming it to be the most recent news or anything and im sure you wernt the guy asking what Dxi was earlier which I lost so I posted a new topic so he could find it. but I dont give a rats ass about Dxi or Vst being better or not I just wanted to show the person what it stands for and yes as ive said above "this is directley from cakewalks web site" and its as recent as 2 hours ago , so blame them for not mentioning FL6 lol personally I dont use FL even though I have a free copy bundled with my soundcard. So whats your point agian?
this is not debate material its directley from cakewalk so take your problems up with them lol.

my point now is, if that came from the cakewalk page (which I very sure it is), first it says cakewalk may not be keeping up with things...RED FLAG...second it isn't exactly info, it's a sales pitch, not by you, but you are using their sales pitch...to what? Educate? Hardly seems likely it wouldn't be biased...so it's biased outdated info... I really do not see the point in that..

[;-)]

I wasnt proclaming it to be the most recent news or anything and im sure you wernt the guy asking what Dxi was earlier which I lost so I posted a new topic so he could find it. but I dont give a rats ass about Dxi or Vst being better or not I just wanted to show the person what it stands for and yes as ive said above "this is directley from cakewalks web site" and its as recent as 2 hours ago , so blame them for not mentioning FL6 lol personally I dont use FL even though I have a free copy bundled with my soundcard. So whats your point agian?
this is not debate material its directley from cakewalk so take your problems up with them lol.

You posted it here without any comment. So you are responsible for that crap too.

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[Stairsteps]

I wasnt proclaming it to be the most recent news or anything and im sure you wernt the guy asking what Dxi was earlier which I lost so I posted a new topic so he could find it. but I dont give a rats ass about Dxi or Vst being better or not I just wanted to show the person what it stands for and yes as ive said above "this is directley from cakewalks web site" and its as recent as 2 hours ago , so blame them for not mentioning FL6 lol personally I dont use FL even though I have a free copy bundled with my soundcard. So whats your point agian?
this is not debate material its directley from cakewalk so take your problems up with them lol.

You posted it here without any comment. So you are responsible for that crap too.

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And? wtf is your problem anyway if its untrue take it up with Sonar Ide love you too but its just a post on specs directly from sonar why you all concerned ? gee get a keyboard man and go jam.

[;-)]

If you post specs from others here without any comments, it is spam. Obviously.

That simple is it.
Otherwise you could post the link here, right?

(Your try of "excuse" with the "lost post of a lost person anywhen posting here" is very suspicious.)

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well if it helped the person you were trying to help that's all that really matters I guess...