Comments about loops and new time-stretching vsti, please?

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Hi :)
Finally I've almost completed a new vsti.

This is what it is meant to do:

- Put a multitrack drums/percussions recording into it (up to ten tracks). No length limit, direct from disk. Example: bassdrum, snare, hihat, overhead left, overhead right, room, effects, etc...
- Define slices and single shot samples and assign to midi notes (like Intakt, but multitrack)
- Set song tempo in your host
- Play by midi notes, it follows tempo (one note -> one loop). There are beat-detection, quantize, variations.
- A sampler is integrated for single shots, too

Why should it be different? Because of multitracking, time-stretching and pitch-shifting. You can quantize and set variations from the same material. You don't have to slice files or manage several tracks in your host. You can mix the mics in realtime and follow tempo changes.

The question is here:
Our idea is to sell wav sets in a package with the vsti. But I'm not sure if it would really be interesting. What do people think about a similar application? Any interest??

Here is a snapshot from the old interface:

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Thanks :)

Quinto

P.S. We could be interested in collaboration for wav sets. Any idea?
Last edited by quintosardo on Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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sure very high interest..like Ableton live as a vsti

plz possibillity to preview the loops via browser in Host tempo...and more than 10 Tracks(loops)????

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korn666 wrote:plz possibillity to preview the loops via browser in Host tempo...
Would this be enough?:
open the vst, drag and drop a file in track 1, listen in host tempo... if yes, it is already so
korn666 wrote: ...and more than 10 Tracks(loops)????
The concept is that you put into it tracks from the same thing. Example: ten mics from a drumset. If you need another instrument and more tracks (say, percussions over that drummer) you can load another instance. So number of tracks should be limited by cpu only...

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sounds/looks great. usefull for correcting live drums.

when?

k

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soulata wrote:sounds/looks great. usefull for correcting live drums.

when?

k
Demo should be available next week...

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Looks interesting indeed... hopefully it has its own browser, and if so, previewing could be done without drag'n'drop since it's rather tedious if you're previewing more than a couple of files :)

(Been recently learning Ableton Live and I already hate the whole drag'n'drop concept for any functionality where repetition occurs... it's almost counterintuitive and has been surpassed in several products with something more sensible)

One business opportunity for you might be offering this as a front end to those sound companies who nowadays offer multitrack drum recordings, I recall seeing some such libraries advertised.
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Wow. This could be the bees knees for anybody into advanced loop mangling.
Do you have any beta available? From my experience with various loop based tools I can only say that workflow is all things are about, and most of the tools lack seriously in one or the other department.

I'm sure I'd have plenty of suggestions, but having a demo/beta available would be a must to see how everything feels and works like.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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@jmh:
Browser still to be added...
The concept is that you load a whole performance (maybe as long as 10 minutes... no problem with ram because direct from disk), then you slice it inside the vst. The work shouldn't be as intensive as previewing loops, normally sold in short slices (single loops)
Anyway I agree with you. A good browser is a must. I'll try to add it if the demo will be considered interesting (I mean sound quality...)
One business opportunity for you might be offering this as a front end to those sound companies who nowadays offer multitrack drum recordings, I recall seeing some such libraries advertised.
Right. Working on this, too :wink:

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@Sascha Franck:

A beta should be available in a couple of days.
If you are interested, I'll send it to you for sure, thanks :)

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One of the company that offers mutlitrack recordings of drum performance is Drum Drops. Got some of their stuff on a Music Tech magazine cover CD, great stuff! You can check out their website:

http://www.drumdrops.com/

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Yes, that's great stuff! And I've seen very very good reviews about it...

Are there so many people using whole performances in multitrack? Or they are a very small group, while the more use simple mono/stereo sliced loops???

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I have a few multitracked drum tracks. If you want, I could extract a bit of stuff out of them.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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@Sascha Franck:
That's very interesting.
If you promise that you look at this software with a "technician's eye" :wink: , I could send you a beta soon and you could test those wavs directly. It would be the most interesting test...

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-Compatibility: rex* , sf*, wav, aiff...

-Controllable slice size or controllable loop size,
for example: with it and FWD loop mode you can make FX really interesting because it seems as a SizeWaveLFO :P
am I crazy ?
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@jasa56:

At this stage it loads 44.1KHz 16 bit mono wavs.

About weird effects:
It is not designed as a creative synth. It is more like a multitrack player to make simple and versatile the use of recordings, as if they were midifiles...
The idea is: fill it with wavs and forget about it...

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