Usual track count for your songs?
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- KVRist
- 445 posts since 24 Apr, 2005
Just kinda curious as to what everyone here ends up with as a final track count.
Myself, I've found my older songs are around a dozen tracks at most; with mostly vst's laden with heavy effects providing everything. Lately, I've been experimenting with layering sounds, and going for a minimum of effects... I'm hoping to get 50-60 tracks per song now.
Myself, I've found my older songs are around a dozen tracks at most; with mostly vst's laden with heavy effects providing everything. Lately, I've been experimenting with layering sounds, and going for a minimum of effects... I'm hoping to get 50-60 tracks per song now.
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
12-24 depending on "extras" Usual a stereo pair for Kicks, snare(s), Cymbals and hats, toms, bass, organ, synths, and fonts. (using vsampler I can pan, add fx and adjust every single instrument, I have five the five pair for bass and drums)...guitars between 4-8 pair, vox about the same...so it ususally works out to between 12 and 18 tracks, but then I split things up and such...but in a final mix I doubt I have ever been over 24...
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- KVRAF
- 6496 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from Frederick, MD
Mine range from extremely minimal, like Jabberwocky which has 4 tracks of VSTi's and one vocal (well, it actually has an extra 2 or 3 vocals, but those are single word/phrase tracks to get some special FX going), or Epsilon In New Orleans Pale, which has only 5 M-Tron tracks (4 strings and 1 flute), up to Free For All, which has 15 VSTi tracks and over 160 audio clips arranged in God-knows-how many tracks.
But all this is really deceptive, as I often compose my songs in separate Cubase projects and then mix them down to auido and assemble the final track from various audio mix-downs. I'm more worried about accomplishing the final as easily as possible and it's often easiest to do that by breaking things into smaller chunks.
I am working on a song now that currently has 11 instances of Molder (a Minimoog SE instrument by Benedict). Ultimately I'll probably add another 1 to 4 tracks . . . but I don't usually layer VSTi's to do one part, though I have sometimes done that.
So . . . it all depends.
But all this is really deceptive, as I often compose my songs in separate Cubase projects and then mix them down to auido and assemble the final track from various audio mix-downs. I'm more worried about accomplishing the final as easily as possible and it's often easiest to do that by breaking things into smaller chunks.
I am working on a song now that currently has 11 instances of Molder (a Minimoog SE instrument by Benedict). Ultimately I'll probably add another 1 to 4 tracks . . . but I don't usually layer VSTi's to do one part, though I have sometimes done that.
So . . . it all depends.
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- KVRist
- 62 posts since 29 Jun, 2005 from Halifax, Canada
Looks like i'm a lighweight!
Always use...
- Lead Vocal
- A single drum track recorded using a Glyn Johns technique
- Guitar
- Bass
Then add for flavour/filler...
- 1 vsti that sounds like a organ or an electric piano
- 1 or 2 backup vocals
- Maracas or tambourine
- any overdubed solos, but try to get solos during the initial live take.
Always use...
- Lead Vocal
- A single drum track recorded using a Glyn Johns technique
- Guitar
- Bass
Then add for flavour/filler...
- 1 vsti that sounds like a organ or an electric piano
- 1 or 2 backup vocals
- Maracas or tambourine
- any overdubed solos, but try to get solos during the initial live take.
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- KVRAF
- 3588 posts since 13 May, 2004 from montreal
As few as 2 (stereo l/r), as many as 80 or so... current work in progress has about 45.
- addled muppet weed
- 111327 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
same as dystonia,from the very minimal to the outright stupendous 
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- KVRAF
- 7879 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in
I remember, I think, Sickle said he basically used about 1 track--er, no, I believe he said he renders everythin/plays live. I guess there could be a number of tracks rendered simultaneously.
Looks l;ike I'm in the 20-40 range. Of course, a lot of those tracks seem to be one shot samples/ fx, etc.
I have only perhaps 5 main instruments (drums=1) with differing arrangements (~6-8 each)
Looks l;ike I'm in the 20-40 range. Of course, a lot of those tracks seem to be one shot samples/ fx, etc.
I have only perhaps 5 main instruments (drums=1) with differing arrangements (~6-8 each)
..what goes around comes around..
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 6 Sep, 2002 from United Kingdom & Opinions Will Travel :O)
Depends a lot on the host – and how it does ‘tracks’ and your work flow within the host.
For me FL Studio = crazy number of tracks
Sonar = four for the same thing (sonar likes dual cpus, so I dread to think just how many tracks I could get and the result of that - when I get some more time, gonna try it out to the max
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Best regards,
Peter
For me FL Studio = crazy number of tracks
Sonar = four for the same thing (sonar likes dual cpus, so I dread to think just how many tracks I could get and the result of that - when I get some more time, gonna try it out to the max
Best regards,
Peter
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 445 posts since 24 Apr, 2005
FL doesn't count.Spe3D wrote: For me FL Studio = crazy number of tracks
I mean, you can't make real music with FL.
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 6 Sep, 2002 from United Kingdom & Opinions Will Travel :O)
the_nihilist wrote:FL doesn't count.Spe3D wrote: For me FL Studio = crazy number of tracks
I mean, you can't make real music with FL.
Best regards,
Peter
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- KVRist
- 329 posts since 15 Jun, 2004
Actually for me fl helps keeping the track number down. For example i load many different drum samples each in its every drum sampler and route them all to few mixer tracks, like kick snare hat and percs, since i used to make music just with a samppler i'm used to set up panning and gain directly within it rather than at mixing stage so sometimes i find out i don't have to do very much to some tracks at mixing and i can group them together, so i don't usually get very much past those first 16 tracks in the mixer screen, and sometimes i use less : )
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- KVRAF
- 8734 posts since 24 May, 2002 from Tutukaka, New Zealand
I don't think I've ever got above 24 channels (usually including FX as well). It's a hang over from my mixing desk days - learnt to stick with what I had (although I could have used the in-line channels too if I really wanted). Learning on a desk is a good way of keeping thing manageable. So even though I could use loads more nowadays, if I wanted to, old habits die hard.
Not that I wouldn't have liked a 32-channel desk though, but I would never have got it downstairs through the cellar door
Not that I wouldn't have liked a 32-channel desk though, but I would never have got it downstairs through the cellar door
- KVRAF
- 1955 posts since 5 Sep, 2003 from Denmark
Usually no more than 100 counting group and fx tracks when in cubase. When in Energy XT I record live to 3-4 tracks (I like a little control when after-editing).
- Suspended
- 17890 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Generally somewhere between 8 and 12. 4x Drums, bass, rhythm, lead, vocal and maybe one or tw othings that come in/out here and there. Sik's stuff usually have about 8 bass synths that I have to cut down to two or three if there is to be any hope of hearing it all in the mix.
I usually get to a stage in a song where I go through and mute each channel and decide what I can get by without. Its a great exercise that almost always results in a much clearer mix.
I usually get to a stage in a song where I go through and mute each channel and decide what I can get by without. Its a great exercise that almost always results in a much clearer mix.
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- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
I know a guy who can make real music farting...the_nihilist wrote:FL doesn't count.Spe3D wrote: For me FL Studio = crazy number of tracks
I mean, you can't make real music with FL.
btw never use his mics...
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