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bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:29 pm

RapRogue wrote:Pffft, I woke up wanting to attack something. Guess I
will find and taunt some macabused user.

Anyways, before I start raving, what is the budget?
Are we talking free or Algorithmix budget?

Well, if he can afford it the algoritmix EQ package does sound good and works very well. Maybe email them and ask for a demo? That's what I did.

Cheers!
bManic

scrubs · Post by **scrubs** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:40 pm

RapRogue wrote:Pffft, I woke up wanting to attack something. Guess I
will find and taunt some macabused user.

Anyways, before I start raving, what is the budget?
Are we talking free or Algorithmix budget?

not too bothered about the budget, but ideally looking for something that doesent require a dedicated DSP card

Artgiver · Post by **Artgiver** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:01 pm

URS stuff - awesome, no dsp, and somewhat expensive.

Artgiver · Post by **Artgiver** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:05 pm

.. and there usually is a reason why the world raves. 000 care to point me to an alternative for Soniformer 2? .. no? I thought so, coz there is none, period.

Ditto for Voxformer

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IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:24 pm

.. or it could mean "I have no free pci slots or firewire ports"

scrubs · Post by **scrubs** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:30 pm

Jonny X wrote:
scrubs wrote: not too bothered about the budget, but ideally looking for something that doesent require a dedicated DSP card
Not that I'm bothered but that could be read,
"I can't download a DSP card off Kazaa can I?"

erm .. and it could also be read that I work on a laptop and using a card such as the UAD would mean I would have to invest a further $1000 dollars for CardBus to PCI Expansion System which id prefer to invest in a good plugin...as well as an infinite amount of other possiblities one's own conscience might care to spill

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:32 pm

NyquistEQ + Endorphin + Blockfish + BuzzMaxi3
Awesome mastering plugs. Beats both Ozone and T-Racks imo.

Artgiver · Post by **Artgiver** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 4:58 pm

NyquistEQ

ceenda · Post by **ceenda** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:04 pm

I don't mind confessing that I find NyquistEQ really hard to master (no pun intended).

I understand the method. It's similar to other parametric eq in that you shape the frequency range to bring out certain areas.

It's just that any manipulation of it seems to result in the whole signal becomes alot quieter. Is that the point? Simply that it prevents frequencies going out of control?

Do most of you have to adjust post-gain frequently after applying it? Or am I just simply inept with it? (which is more than possible...)

Paulie Phonick · Post by **Paulie Phonick** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:23 pm

The behavior you describe results from compensation - when you apply a boost, NyquistEQ makes the whole output more quiet to avoid clipping (I guess). Try switching off the compensation for each of the bands. AFAIK, this cannot be done using the GUI, as the Compensation parameters seems not to be there anywhere (or at least I couldn't find them, somebody enlighten me if I'm wrong) - you have to access them through a generated GUI. This can be done in Chainer, Renoise and eXT (via show param in the main mixer) - don't know about other hosts.

Did I mention NyquistEQ is my default eq?

Posihfopit is a strong contender though.

BTW, while we're at mastering plugs - what (freeware) plugin would you recommend for filtering out sub 30Hz and above 19kHz ranges? Currently I'm using (obviously) Nyquist and/or Posihfopit but is there anything better suited?

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:40 pm

stefancrs wrote:NyquistEQ + Endorphin + Blockfish + BuzzMaxi3
Awesome mastering plugs. Beats both Ozone and T-Racks imo.

Good point, except I'd add Posihfopit EQ to that list. Very good freeware tools out there now. Also do not forget about Daniels tools, the TLS Maximizer and that subtle distortion thing (sorry forgo the name now).

- bManic

ceenda · Post by **ceenda** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:42 pm

Paulie Phonick: Aha, didn't know that, thanks! Results are now much closer to what I expected them to be. Though I'll probably still try and learn how to get the best results out of NyquistEQ without switching on the compensation parameters.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:43 pm

Paulie Phonick wrote: BTW, while we're at mastering plugs - what (freeware) plugin would you recommend for filtering out sub 30Hz and above 19kHz ranges? Currently I'm using (obviously) Nyquist and/or Posihfopit but is there anything better suited?

Well, neither is suitable to filter out frequencies as they both just provide shelves, not filters. It's an excellent question though! I usually use the sonalksis EQ to filter out frequencies as I like it's sound but sometimes I just use Voxengo Elephant in the end to filter out anything below 20hz with it's DC filters.

- bManic

martian · Post by **martian** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:03 pm

Paulie Phonick wrote:BTW, while we're at mastering plugs - what (freeware) plugin would you recommend for filtering out sub 30Hz and above 19kHz ranges? Currently I'm using (obviously) Nyquist and/or Posihfopit but is there anything better suited?

im interested in people's opinions on this too. At my little pre-master stage i jus use the dc filter on elephant like bmanic, also VW which has one on by defalt @12hz. Odd thing with elephant i find i have to have the dc filter at around 8hz (bessel), any higher and i start to loose sub from bottom notes around 50hz! whereas with other filters i can cut much higher before its audiable.

but i usually make sure the extreme lows are fixed in the mix on jus the channels that exibit them, so that i can cut them much higher and keep the bottom clear for the sub (dance music). As an SX user i use Q, which i think is the channel eq rehashed with a better (steeper) shelf, certainly as an eq it sounds jus as shit as the inbuilt one. but for shelving out subsonic stuff it sounds and looks (spectrum) fine, and equally as important for something thats on about 10+ channels (a quarter approx) it uses no cpu.

bmanic wrote:Well, neither is suitable to filter out frequencies as they both just provide shelves, not filters. It's an excellent question though! I usually use the sonalksis EQ to filter out frequencies as I like it's sound but sometimes I just use Voxengo Elephant in the end to filter out anything below 20hz with it's DC filters.
- bManic

why is a steep 12/24/36/48db.oct shelf no good? thought that was basically the same as a filter, except you are not limited to a filters bandwidth. with SXs Q (about 12/18db/oct) and a removal of sub at about 150hz, it looks like it can cut off down to -80db or so @5hz, similar thing with waves ren i find too. havent noticed any weird phasing like people often mention in regard to filters either, although a few things make me suspicious.

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