Im working on a peice that is calling for a dark trombone sound, like absurdly blasting it.
Does such a SF or sampleset exist? any cheap/free ones?
Dirty, Blasty trombone?
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- KVRAF
- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
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I LOVE that sound 
Do you mean a bass trombone like this one?
Them Bad Bones - 5 second sample
If so, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Cheers,
Alex
Do you mean a bass trombone like this one?Them Bad Bones - 5 second sample
If so, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Cheers,
Alex
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- KVRAF
- 6895 posts since 9 Mar, 2003 from the bridge of sighs
what you need is 'trombonus maximus' , a reaktor ensemble ...Chase wrote:Im working on a peice that is calling for a dark trombone sound, like absurdly blasting it.
Does such a SF or sampleset exist? any cheap/free ones?
if you'd like , i can record a sample for you , to see if you like it ...
let me know ...
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- KVRAF
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- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
yes something like that! A blasting trombone can greaten a dark track. When I saw Manson live there was this guy on the trombone who would absolutely blast his shit and it was awesome (i dont even like most of MM's music)...xander wrote:I LOVE that sound
Them Bad Bones - 5 second sample
If so, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Cheers,
Alex
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- KVRist
- 90 posts since 13 Oct, 2003 from Hamburg
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There is nothing like a real horn section to do some amazing things live or to a track. There are few virtual horns that I think are worth the 300 odd euros they ask for. Some synth horns are OK if you are after that specific synth horn sound -- they have their place.Chase wrote:yes something like that! A blasting trombone can greaten a dark track. When I saw Manson live there was this guy on the trombone who would absolutely blast his shit and it was awesome (i dont even like most of MM's music)...xander wrote:I LOVE that sound
Them Bad Bones - 5 second sample
If so, let me know and I'll see what I can do.
Cheers,
Alex
Out of the one or two sample or formant based horns that I actually think are good, yeah Project Sam is OK, as mentioned. I have a couple of excellent sound fonts that I wouldn't hesitate to use *in a background*, but not up front.
Maybe I'm crazy, but the sound of a real bass trombone -- even a single sustained note -- has yet to have it's equal in a sampler -- there are just too many natural variables to emulate.
However, Garritan says their new Jazz Ensemble is tops, and Gary told me that it includes a bass trombone. Love to hear what it's like when GG releases it.
Anyway, to feel that bone-smashing gut punch from a bass trombone is so cool, IMHO. Worth taking time to get it right for sure. Funny thing is, most people I know have never even SEEN a bass trombone, and when they do, they usually say: "WTF is that thing?!?!?!"
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- KVRist
- 90 posts since 13 Oct, 2003 from Hamburg
well, sure. every instrument is better than samples. this is generally with everything. i tested and tried a lot of brass sections and i really think that the sam trombones for around 130 bucks are really the best you can get. plus you have a lot of articulations to make it even more real. the only thing which is still missing is the legato tool, like on VSL stuff
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Well, actually I think some instruments are well suited for sample-based use, like flutes and woodwinds for example, but big brass 'blasts' like Chase mentioned he wanted are hard to emulate short of just recording a musician doing them.
When you start a note in a trombone, say Bflat, and then flat that note further by widening/loosening while blowing more air through your lips, you get that modulated blasting sound, yet still maintain the note. In a sense, you are over-driving the mouth piece. It is extremely difficult to emulate this effect realisitcally, though it has been done and most people wouldn't know the difference I suppose (except for this place, where people can yell "it's too synthy sounding!", etc.)
Interestingly, I played a recording of a violinist to a friend, who swore it was a synth. I played that same track for a few other friends out of curiosity and they said the same thing to a man, yet it was a flawless recording
So go figure eh?
Yep, I think the Sams horns are worth getting at that price. Just listening to Ixox songs proves their worth.
When you start a note in a trombone, say Bflat, and then flat that note further by widening/loosening while blowing more air through your lips, you get that modulated blasting sound, yet still maintain the note. In a sense, you are over-driving the mouth piece. It is extremely difficult to emulate this effect realisitcally, though it has been done and most people wouldn't know the difference I suppose (except for this place, where people can yell "it's too synthy sounding!", etc.)
Interestingly, I played a recording of a violinist to a friend, who swore it was a synth. I played that same track for a few other friends out of curiosity and they said the same thing to a man, yet it was a flawless recording
So go figure eh? Yep, I think the Sams horns are worth getting at that price. Just listening to Ixox songs proves their worth.
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- KVRAF
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- 10597 posts since 13 Jun, 2004 from Alberto Balsam
well can anyone direct me to regular trombone plugs, sample sets or soundfonts?