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herodotus wrote: He was great to be sure, but George was the heart and soul of the project.
I met George Clinton once, really briefly, and it was weird. On stagehand business, I was on his bus for a few minutes. He had, literally, I shit you not, a throne. Dr. F takin' the whole king o funk thang seriously.

Anyway, what I meant was, Casper did most of the work, of the kinetic energy kind, on stage. I meant nothing about production or songwriting or any of that kind of work. I meant, playing the Funk wearing 80 pounds of costume, and still managing to jump around the stage.

Only Mick Jagger, (ok, maybe Baryshnikov), has ever contributed more energy to a stage production.

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Dr.Wu wrote:here is a great resource for new orleans style drumming and a great way to donate some money to rebuilt the city at the same time!

www.spectrasonics.net/neworleans/

I downloaded it and the grooves are awesome.
The best 25 bucks i spent in a long time!

RU with me?

Dr.Wu
I bought it, and I really appreciate the donation to Habitat.

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james0tucson wrote:
Dr.Wu wrote:here is a great resource for new orleans style drumming and a great way to donate some money to rebuilt the city at the same time!

www.spectrasonics.net/neworleans/

I downloaded it and the grooves are awesome.
The best 25 bucks i spent in a long time!

RU with me?

Dr.Wu
I bought it, and I really appreciate the donation to Habitat.
Thanks guys....spread the word about our project as far and wide as you can!

We want to help as many people as possible with it. :-)

http://www.spectrasonics.net/neworleans/

spectrum

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TexasMusicForge wrote:
Dr.Wu wrote:here is a great resource for new orleans style drumming and a great way to donate some money to rebuilt the city at the same time!
www.spectrasonics.net/neworleans/
I downloaded it and the grooves are awesome.
The best 25 bucks i spent in a long time!
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Wow - Dr. Wu hit the jackpot with this link. Heck yes, I'm purchasing this pack today. For all y'all who need some schoolin' in New Orleans riddims, the demo Mp3 on this site is worth listening to.

A quick personal note: I went back to New Orleans a few years ago to visit guitarist Brint Andersen, who used to play in my band here in Austin. He gave me directions to find the club he was playing at so I could come out and sit in. I drove out to the address he gave me, but it was a pretty scary-looking block and the street address just looked like an abandoned warehouse building. I went in and there was a dingy little club in there with little light and beer being sold over a wood plank resting on top of a couple of stacked beer kegs.

Everyone in this all-black joint was as New Orleans friendly as could be and that was before they found out I'm a musician. Brint and his rhythm section were tearing it up doing "glow in the dark" funky blues. I got up to blow some harmonica and sing. I could see through the holes in the walls to the outside by the light of a single bulb over the stage area. The band launched into an extended rhythm vamp. I kept hearing percussion instruments behind me I didn't recognize, turned around and it was just the drummer. In true New Orleans fashion, he wasn't just playing his drum kit, but also anything within reach of his sticks that would give him a sound or texture he was looking for. Walls, amps, drum hardware - all fair game.

This is also the city where I've seen guys play cowbell with a drumstick and a spark plug socket slipped over a finger and into the mouth of the cowbell. The trick is playing a steady rhythm striking parts of the cowbell with the drumstick, then getting counterpoint rhythms from the spark plug socket.

I appreciate and enjoy James Brown and George Clinton, but the kind of bone-deep funk I've been describing can be found in a majority of regular gigging club musicians. That's why New Orleans is and was the Shining Beacon O' Funk in this increasingly soulless world.

Sorry for the digression and thanks to Dr. Wu for the link, I deeply love New Orleans music and just want to spread the joy. You can get yourself an injection by checking out wwoz.org - the website for New Orleans radio station WWOZ. They stream their broadcasts from the website and it's a great way to get hip to the riddim.

Best regards to all,

Tio Ed
Cool story. And yeah that c.d. looks awesome.

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TexasMusicForge wrote: With all due respect, y'all in Europe get way too many canned rhythms force-fed to you by pop radio. May I humbly suggest checking out *anything* by The Meters if you want the real grit and glory of the funk?
Yes, my brother...yes, my brother! :-)

The Meters are one of our biggest influence in the rhythms on the New Orleans Strut project....all the drummers on the project pretty much agree he's the golden god of funk drumming.

spectrum

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TexasMusicForge wrote:I appreciate and enjoy James Brown and George Clinton, but the kind of bone-deep funk I've been describing can be found in a majority of regular gigging club musicians. That's why New Orleans is and was the Shining Beacon O' Funk in this increasingly soulless world.

Sorry for the digression and thanks to Dr. Wu for the link, I deeply love New Orleans music and just want to spread the joy.
I couldn't agree more!

It is MIND-BLOWING to me when I hear many people suggesting now that maybe it's not WORTH rebuilding New Orleans! To me, that just shows how widespread the ignorance of the musical and cultural importance of this amazing place....New Orleans is one of the great and true national treasures of the United States. I guess in a country where most average citizens think that Kenny G is the best sax player, it shouldn't be surprising.

I truly hope that one positive thing that comes out of this tragedy is that it reminds people of what is at stake and what we had in this place. "You don't what you've got till it's gone."

Branford Marsalis said it so well the other day when he said that if you take New Orleans out of the US, it leaves it with a whole lot less soul.

spectrum

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clueless wrote:Zigaboo
ffs!

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spectrum wrote:
TexasMusicForge wrote:I appreciate and enjoy James Brown and George Clinton, but the kind of bone-deep funk I've been describing can be found in a majority of regular gigging club musicians. That's why New Orleans is and was the Shining Beacon O' Funk in this increasingly soulless world.

Sorry for the digression and thanks to Dr. Wu for the link, I deeply love New Orleans music and just want to spread the joy.
I couldn't agree more!

It is MIND-BLOWING to me when I hear many people suggesting now that maybe it's not WORTH rebuilding New Orleans! To me, that just shows how widespread the ignorance of the musical and cultural importance of this amazing place....New Orleans is one of the great and true national treasures of the United States. I guess in a country where most average citizens think that Kenny G is the best sax player, it shouldn't be surprising.

I truly hope that one positive thing that comes out of this tragedy is that it reminds people of what is at stake and what we had in this place. "You don't what you've got till it's gone."

Branford Marsalis said it so well the other day when he said that if you take New Orleans out of the US, it leaves it with a whole lot less soul.

spectrum

i agree. and I really think this is pivatol time for the U.S. as a society, this great tragedy has revealed and in the near future will reveal even more
who we are as a people and who we want to be, it hurts but i'm seeing evidence that some folks just want to bury New Orleans and that says alot. iT MAKES me feel like some folks have gotten all they can out of those people and now put no value in them.

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wow that description of the in promptu second line sound makes it sound awesome! i totally wish i could hear that!
i initially looked in on the thread and was like "uhh whatever that means...." and went on about my surfing :)

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Hey y'all:

I bought the loops set mentioned in this thread. It was so good I had to smoke a cigarette and stare at the ceiling afterwards...

I can't recommend this set highly enough. GREAT beats by world-class drummers (freakin' Greg Bissonnette!), recorded in world-class studios. This is the motherlode of funk - you'll be slicing and dicing this thing for years AND 100% of it goes to Habitat for Humanity's rebuilding efforts on the Gulf Coast.

We're already getting a lot of the musician refugees from New Orleans over here in Austin, with guys from the Dirty Dozen Brass Band and all of Irma Thomas' band taking up residence over here. They're all going to need to work somewhere and Austin now has the best club scene in the country (maybe the world) until New Orleans gets rebuilt. It's going to be interesting to see what the results are of New Orleans music, food and culture getting scattered all over the US. Personally, a little funk might be the antidote for the Bush years.

On a personal note, I'm packing up chainsaws, tarps, tools, a guitar, water and gas in the truck and heading over to Mississippi on Tuesday to pitch in and see what I can do for some of the folks in the small towns that aren't getting any publicity or help. If y'all want to help too, check out that set of loops.

Best regards,

Tio Ed
Just Another Guitarist In Austin
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