FL Studio makes synthetic music?

[donkey tugger]

its those pesky acoustic geetars that give that bastard synthetic sound every time

Ouch! IS this being played on a plastic uke??? And that sing-a-long mic doesn't do wonders either.

Donks, you need to buy Nuendo. It will make you a PRO!!! And maybe you could learn to sing in Chinese, too, English is so bastardly synthetic these days...

Sorry, I was out and ting;

I LIEK DA FRUITY LOPS DO A F3W WE CRONNG NUMBRS AEV A LRF AND TAHT!111 LOL DOAS WUT I NED IT 2 DO CANT KNOK IT1111!!11 OMG WTF NOT ARSED ABOUT PRO THIS OR TAHT MAR3L3Y A WE HOBY 2 FIL IN TEH TIEM BTWEN WORK AND AEL!!1!111! WTF LOL

[GypsyJazz]

Why is FL the most "controversial" audio software? Am I missing the debates on the others or are they on different forums?

Some people just don't like the name.

Others tried it a while back, say at version 3 or earlier,
when it was still a toy, and don't realise how much it has advanced since then.

But I suspect the main problem is FL STUDIO is,much cheaper than similar programs and therefore more likely to be used by
newcomers and beginners.....who don't yet know how to get a
good sound....

[kovacs]

WTF LOL

Pretty much sums it up, I think.

[pannewb]

FL STUDIO is the $hit! Making music should be fun and easy to do and FL provides exactly that! It only gets put down because of it's name, "Fruity" and because of the Carrot logo, simple as that. If Fruity Loops (FL Studio) had a more professional name to begin with and perhaps a more "Windows style" looking GUI, it wouldn't get put down so much.

You have to be kidding me.

I will admit that GUI is important, but if that's true about 'Windoze Style GUI's' then just about every audio app should be considered unusable and shoddy.

And the logo, well

[Z3R0T0N1N]

it also gets put down alot, and disgarded, because of the way some of the users used to act ( it seems to have calmed down alot ). There were a number of people who made it their business to totally lay into anyone who even asked a question regarding a missed feature, or said ANYTHING that wasn't sopping wet with adoration for all things 'Fruity'. Heaven forbid you might mention that it didn't have a certain feature that something else did: All hell would break loose, with people whinging about " why is everyone always hating on Fruity, it's totally not fair, and you guys are all f**kers, and blah blah.." I remember getting a page full of flaming because i asked where a feature had gone - it was still there, but hiding, and i hadn't seen anything about it having been changed. That was the last question i ever asked about it, because who needs to weed through 15 insults, and self-pity, just to find an answer to a simple question? Now i just keep trying and readin, and figure it out myself or forget about it

So basically, (and unfortunately) the software became somewhat associated with the behaviour of those few but LOUD and ignorant users.
I will never understand what is so personally insulting about someone not likeing the same software as you. ????? WTF ?????
For me, it still kicks ass. I am to this day finding new ways to manipulate sound with FL. It is so amazingly quick and versatile, it's like an instrument rather than a computer program. But if it doesn't work for you, or even if you really hate it, That is cool with me. I would rather hear about what you like about other stuff than waste my time defending a piece of software - that's just daft.

g.

[blaqjak9019]

I use fl studio, and i dont find it synthetic unless you make it synthetic.

listen please:

soundclick.com/reycoakablaqjak

[Kingston]

I just popped in to say hi!

and also to mention how much I love to stir the waters of ever enduring noobness and fanboyism in every FL thread there has been to date.

This far I've especially enjoyed comparing FL to logic and cubase and watch the hornets nest buzz and swarm.

But remember, there is love in every FL studio owner. It is expressed in the form of blind hope, that maybe one day the host will have all the ever requested missing features.

(jmh and bmanic you are of course excluded)

[Kingston]

FL studio, the best thing since sliced bread for flexible busses and auxillary routings. Also best known for its extensive PDC capabilities.

Oh wait, it's also perfect for sidechaining.

So a Cubase fanboy stepps in to set FL Fanboys straight...never seen that happen at KVR before.

None of the features you mention are required to make a mix that is commercial quality, which was the gist of the original argument and to which I was responding.

FL5 can side-chain right now. I have no idea why you think the FL mixer isn't flexible.

According to loop-talk discussions with gol, FL6 will have PDC.

You took the troll bait, you swallowed it. Now suffer with the hook in your throat.

Look, there is no true sidechaning in FL studio. The features missing are pretty DAMN important in comfortable mixing.

Just because I point out and downright laugh at the ridiculous cubase vs FL comparison (there is nothing in Cubase that you can't do in FL on the mastering/mixing side. It's just VST's, 1's and 0's), that still doesn't make me a fanboy.

Also, there is no FL6 available.

I quite like FL. There's plenty of reasons why it's the best thing for such and such trick or style. But I like trolling FL fanboys even more.


(edit, whoopsie, bad grammar etc.)

[Jbravo]

I wish I knew what sidechaining was - obviously I've never needed it thus far (or maybe I have and my music is lacking as a result)

[jmh]

It's something these damn hifi freaks with bat-like hearing seem to need to get music done

Basically it's controlling (normally) a compressor's behavior with another audio stream, such as making a bass temporarily sound quieter while a bass drum hits - a typical thing done in dance music... and so far, it seems it cannot be done in FL (as there is no way to route the control audio to a plugin's side chain input - and for some reason there aren't compressor plugins around that would provide the sidechain input in form of another plugin which sends the data to the compressor... TC had such a thing in the past, but it worked somewhat unpredictably for some reason)

I haven't really had a dire need it for so far, but I can see some uses for it.

Funny thing is that there's more than one claim done it can be done already, but I haven't found out how and the people talking about it being possible haven't answered... (and no, using Peak Controller isn't the answer)

Although I can see why, damn you Kingston ;D

Regards,

JMH

[Jbravo]

ok thanks for the explanation! I'm going to have to think about how it could be done - though I suspect it won't be easy

[Jbravo]

so is this sidechaining? (a very crude implementation I guess)

http://komosa.brinkster.net/is-this-sidechaining.zip

for some reason I had to zip the flp file or else my web host can't see it

[jmh]

Yes and no. Yes, it's the closest that AFAIK can be done - not true sidechaining but approximating its typical use with Peak Controller.

It's easy to get these Benny Bennassi / Eric Prydz crap pumping effects (although, dog knows why as it's the easiest way to ruin a track unless it's done with taste and not on the master bus) but what the more experienced people seem to be doing with sidechaining (I hope Kingston can shed some light on this issue) is a more delicate 'interplay' between instruments, and for that task the wish seems to be to be able to utilize the sidechain inputs on plugins that have it directly instead of "faking" it with Peak Controller...

But I'm really not an expert in sidechaining and the need for it, I seem to be able to get close enough results by selecting a certain compressor and feeding bass and kick into it, and out comes a nicely leveled mix of these two that sits nicely within the whole mix...

Regards,

JMH

[Jbravo]

well yes I agree. Standard compression has met my needs in that area.

[Z3R0T0N1N]

energyXT is only 39 dollars, and you can sidechain anything and everything but the kitchen sink.
I actually use it as my main host about half the time, and the other half i have it loaded into Podium or Frooty.
that's how you sidechain in FL i suppose.
It would be a nice native feature though, as would MIDI plugins support through the internal controller scheme. wow, that would be super cool. ( i mean MIDI vst plugs, like those by Nicfit, NDC, and Dunk or smex.)