Synth FX Sounds

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Can anyone tell me how to create these synth FX or where I can find them? I have tried to make them with Filtered Whitenoise and sine waves but they dont sound nearly as nice as these:
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I don't know the specific patching scheme used, but typically these sorts of sounds are the result of using multiple modulation sources.

For instance:
Env1->LFO2 Speed->OSC1 Pitch
Then,
OSC1 -> Delay
by using different LFO waveforms, and different OSC waveforms, the results can be very wide indeed.

Invader by e-phonic is a good place to start if you want a free source:
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/430.html

Also Crystal is another freebee to check (although it's harder to understand at first):
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/219.html

For further explorations, I would recommend finding a decent modular softsynth like Vaz, Reaktor, or Moog Modular V.

I myself have discovered alot of these techniques by working with an actual analog modular (at my university's electronic music lab), but one could easily achieve similar results using modern softsynths. The trick is to play and experiment with an eye on knowing what one is effecting at all times.

If you play with a decent modular (or semi-modular like z3ta+) long enough, you will figure out sounds that are similar or better than the ones on records.

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Gee, I have no idea.

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