Anyone have (or have experience with) both of these?
Wondering how they stack up against each other.
Both are pretty good I'm sure, but do either have any particular strengths or weaknesses compared to the other?
.....especially in the solo instruments?
GPO v Philharmonik
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oddbods finger oddbods finger https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=55496
- KVRian
- 779 posts since 21 Jan, 2005 from The Vale of Eden
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harmony gardens harmony gardens https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=12815
- KVRian
- 830 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Richland Center, Wisconsin
I have both, and they are both indeed good. GPO offers a nice set of sounds, the community is strong, and there is a lot of great support and instruction available on thier site, and in the community. The samples are very nice. I was in on the GPO Group Buy, and at that price, it was a no brainer addition to my set up. It actually exceeded my expectations.
Philharmonik is at least as good, and in many cases better than GPO IMHO. It's been well expressed by others, that the Philharmonik Samples have more expressiveness. I have found this to be true. There is a sweetness in the sounds, that GPO simply doesn't have.
The choir and percussion selections are much more extensively covered in Philhamonik. You also get the Sampletank based GUI which gives you many more options for applying effects, as well as more effects to apply.
As for solo instruments, they are both good, but again, Philharmonnik seems a little more expressive.
I enjoy having both, but considering that I'm not a schooled orchestrator, I have more orchestral sounds than I really need with them. If I had to choose one, it would be Philharmonik.
Philharmonik is at least as good, and in many cases better than GPO IMHO. It's been well expressed by others, that the Philharmonik Samples have more expressiveness. I have found this to be true. There is a sweetness in the sounds, that GPO simply doesn't have.
The choir and percussion selections are much more extensively covered in Philhamonik. You also get the Sampletank based GUI which gives you many more options for applying effects, as well as more effects to apply.
As for solo instruments, they are both good, but again, Philharmonnik seems a little more expressive.
I enjoy having both, but considering that I'm not a schooled orchestrator, I have more orchestral sounds than I really need with them. If I had to choose one, it would be Philharmonik.
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- KVRian
- 1157 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Good old Germany
I did a test run with some strings that I originally created with Hypersonic, using GPO - and I was not very impressed. Soon after that I bought VSL Chamber Strings and it was completely another world. IMHO, VSL sounded sooooo much better. Can't do a comparison with Philharmonik yet, as it just shipped 3 days ago...
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
I love GPO and with Overture 4 it is nearly perfect for my needs. FYI I do not like the Hollywood sound for symphonic arrangements - GPO is a bit more restrained and also does not require a dongle.
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- KVRist
- 33 posts since 25 Feb, 2005 from Brooklyn, NY
This is a tough one. I have both and can't imagine having to choose one over the other as they are different and yet complement each other nicely. GPO has the advantage of keyswitch combos that put several articulations into one patch and make it very easy to use - this is also the case for solo instruments. There is the added advantage of separate 1st and 2nd violins, which most libraries don't have. Philharmonik has combis that you can put together and can be triggered by velocity or mapped out to different keyboard zones. It truly has such gorgeous sounds and is so fun to just sit and play!
Even though the sound of GPO is more (how shall I say it?) reserved, There are more choices among solo instruments from which you can make up an ensemble of your choosing. You can use the mod wheel to shape a dynamic performance out of all the instruments.
Both libraries were recorded in place on stage so there's no panning you need to do in order to set up your stage image. They work nicely together so you can mix and match to give yourself even more orchestral colors.
The ultimate test is your own ears though, Give a listen to the demos and see what you think. There aren't a lot of Philharmonik demos out yet but here is a link to one I did of a Ravel piece you might find interesting.
www.lostandlonging.com/LPG_Ravel_Rapsodie_espagnol.mp3
Even though the sound of GPO is more (how shall I say it?) reserved, There are more choices among solo instruments from which you can make up an ensemble of your choosing. You can use the mod wheel to shape a dynamic performance out of all the instruments.
Both libraries were recorded in place on stage so there's no panning you need to do in order to set up your stage image. They work nicely together so you can mix and match to give yourself even more orchestral colors.
The ultimate test is your own ears though, Give a listen to the demos and see what you think. There aren't a lot of Philharmonik demos out yet but here is a link to one I did of a Ravel piece you might find interesting.
www.lostandlonging.com/LPG_Ravel_Rapsodie_espagnol.mp3
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- KVRist
- 233 posts since 10 Aug, 2004
If you timed it right, you almost didnt have to make a choice - you could have gotten GPO on the group buy for 130 i think it was and then miroslav was at the competitive upgrade price of 320 i think instead of the 399 - so for 50 more bux than the intro price you could have had both. I did that and love the fact i have both now. Both different, both have their own good strengths.
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- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
They compliment each other well. We're honoring the crossgrade to GPO users until the end of this month for anyone who already has GPO and wants some other flavors of orchestral sounds. In general, GPO has more for arranging with different solo instruments building up ensembles and Philharmonik has more larger sized ensembles. It's a larger more comprehensive collection (7 gigs, 4,000 patches) but it also costs more so... everything is relative.
Good luck!
Good luck!