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Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:05 pm

I'm sure one could have fun putting CamelSpace in front of Amplitube, but usually you'd just place it behind (or onto a send FX channel, for the matter).

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:07 pm

putte wrote: oh, and about Amplitube 1: i heard that Amplitube 2 will be out in 2009 ..

Wow, that fast?

putte · Post by **putte** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:08 pm

Sascha Franck wrote:
putte wrote: oh, and about Amplitube 1: i heard that Amplitube 2 will be out in 2009 ..
Wow, that fast?

yes, it seems so. but knowing IK it could also be that it will be released in early 2010/ early 2011.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:59 pm

CamelSpace is a gate

A gate of what exactly?

Can you guys think of any VsT effect I can plug next to ( before or after ) Amplitube to make it sound better?

Ben [Camel Audio] · Post by **Ben [Camel Audio]** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:09 pm

I don't understand why you people like CamelSpace and CamelPhat so much. The truth is I don't really know what is their purpose. Are they used to make dance and techno music?

I am a blues guitar player, would they be any good to me? Is there any kind of tutorial and applications samples?

I can't really answer that question since I don't play guitar (well not apart from incredibly badly) - but as luck would have it, someone just posted at the Camel forum who's a guitar player and described it as the most fun they've had with a plugin. Here's the link followed by the quote:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=104216

Thanks
Ben

Having the time of my life.

I am basicaly a guitar player and have little to no keyboard chops and so I tend to stay away from synth type products. I don't do trance, tarnce, IDM, DnB, Ambient - hell I don't even know what half of those are. Although I have two "midi" guitars ( a Brian Moore 2.13 and a Godin LSX-SA ) the trials and tribulations of guitar based midi has often proved to be a problem. All of this is just a long way around to saying that it's not surprising to me that I was not familiar with any of the Camel products. (except the straights but that's a whole different product line )

Anyway, I don't know how I tripped over it (now that I think about it, might have been the thread on transferring licenses and people saying why sell SampleTank when you can add CamelSpace and have a whole new set of instruments) but I decided to investigate.

I D/L the demo and in about 10min. I knew I had to have this. I have not had this much fun with a plug-in ever.

In addition to its use with midi driven synths/samplers, it's great with straight audio production. I have been having a great deal of fun recording guitar patterns and rhythms in audio and processing with CamelSpace. If there are any guitar players reading this try reducing the mix level and get the blend of processed and unprocessed sounds together. It is really incredible.

Based on my style of music it may not be the first go-to plug-in but it certainly one of the coolest.

Thanks for some great work.

Dan

kovacs · Post by **kovacs** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:25 pm

Guitar Guy wrote:I D/L the demo and in about 10min. I knew I had to have this. I have not had this much fun with a plug-in ever.

Word.

That could have been me except my name isn't Dan and I haven't treated my guitar to Camelspacephat yet.

10 minutes with the CamelSpace demo and you'd willingly trade in your soul for it.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:29 pm

10 minutes with the CamelSpace demo and you'd willingly trade in your soul for it.

I don't want to disrespect anyone here. But I just done playing with the demo. I honestly don't know what to say. I am not trading my soul for it, that's for sure. It is like aliens landed on my amplifier and modified it. I don't think I have a use for that effect. It reminds me more of some new age music than bluesy type of music.

kovacs · Post by **kovacs** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:32 pm

Well like I said I didn't use it on my guitar yet...just on VSTs like Pro-53, Reaktor, and the Cameleon demo...and I did trade my soul.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 11:39 pm

A3ntar, not sure whether you're into such stuff, but I just love making my guitar sound like this:
http://home.arcor.de/s.franck/temp/QuickCamelGit.mp3
(4 bars raw, 4 bars of the same pattern with CamelSpace, left the click running, so the syncing becomes more obvious)

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:12 am

Sacha, to be frank, no I am not into this "funky" stuff. LOL. Is that you playing on your guitar? You have a great tone!

Can you please share what hardware are you using? ( guitar, amp, soundcard )

Compared to yours, my guitar sounds muffled, lifless and dull

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:17 am

That's my G&L strat through a VAmp2, currently running straight into an Edirol PCR-A30 USB MIDI/Audio thingy (because right now I'm on the laptop), nothing else.

A3ntar · Post by **A3ntar** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:20 am

That's my G&L strat through a VAmp2, currently running straight into an Edirol PCR-A30 USB MIDI/Audio thingy (because right now I'm on the laptop), nothing else

I wish my guitar sounded 1/10th as good as yours on my PC. It is really lifeless and dull. I never knew one could get such a great sound from a PC! Thanks for sharing the informations.

rpmartino · Post by **rpmartino** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:32 am

A3ntar wrote:I wish my guitar sounded 1/10th as good as yours on my PC. It is really lifeless and dull. I never knew one could get such a great sound from a PC! Thanks for sharing the informations.

How are you connecting your guitar to the computer? A good preamp/interface that makes sure the impedance/level going into the computer is correct makes a big difference.

Armadillo · Post by **Armadillo** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:34 am

A3ntar: IMO Camelspace is as far from Blues as you can get. I think it's superb, but for Trance and IDM. You could of course just use the flanger/reverb/panning/delay, but it's force lies in the trance gate IMO, and that you most likely won't need.

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Wed Sep 21, 2005 12:39 am

rpmartino wrote: How are you connecting your guitar to the computer? A good preamp/interface that makes sure the impedance/level going into the computer is correct makes a big difference.

Defenitely!
But I still think that so far dedicated boxes are doing a better job (even if they're just software housed in some dedicated case), probably because they're made for exactly ONE task. That's why I actually understand the approach of Waves' GTR.

Armadillo wrote:A3ntar: IMO Camelspace is as far from Blues as you can get. I think it's superb, but for Trance and IDM. You could of course just use the flanger/reverb/panning/delay, but it's force lies in the trance gate IMO, and that you most likely won't need.

Well, I just created some auto-funk pattern, using the trance gate... not too shabby! But of course it's not a funk guitar at all.
It's just, I stopped caring about genres. I mean, you can shuffle the trancegate, so why not use it on some modernized blues?

.. CamelSpace is a wowow ..