please talk me into purchasing audiomulch ;-)

[fabi]

With the new beta up, I decided I'll give this little beauty a try, since I've discovered with eXT that I am quite fond of a somewhat non-linear approach when it comes to hosting/composing.

can someone tell me what advantages they have, that lead them to using audiomulch? maybe some of you can also point out the differences to bidule and eXT if you are familiar with those.

One thing that does sound attractive, actually, is that it is audio only - I have eXT and FL for midi if needed, and audiomulch being audio only would impose a different working perspective on me and thus provide new ways of making music.

just a few quick questions off the top of my head:
- can i load audiomulch as a vst/i?`
- if not, i can load eXT into mulch, right?
- how low-level is it?
- does it support true feedback?

well, i'll definitely give the current beta a try.

regards,
fabi

[duncanparsons]

please talk me into purchasing audiomulch

Go and buy audiomulch

DSP

[fac]

Just buy it. It's only $50 and its price will rise when v1.0 comes out.

I have it and it's lots of fun, especially for performance-oriented stuff. I've just discovered eXT and will probably buy it too. I think both Mulch and eXT could make a great combo (I still have to find out a few things about eXT, though).

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[vurt]

buy it.

[dystonia_ek]

Just buy it. You'll love it, it's great, etc etc etc.

Only thing it's missing is midi routing/sequencing, but if you run EXT inside it then that's taken care of.

[dougsyo]

Will its price really rise? Everybody said that about SE...

And I believe it did. I think I paid US$20 for it, and it's now US$50.

Doug

[fac]

Will its price really rise? Everybody said that about SE...

According to Ross, it will:

http://www.audiomulch.com/09b21notes.htm

[tetraplan]

can someone tell me what advantages they have, that lead them to using audiomulch? maybe some of you can also point out the differences to bidule and eXT if you are familiar with those.

One thing that does sound attractive, actually, is that it is audio only - I have eXT and FL for midi if needed, and audiomulch being audio only would impose a different working perspective on me and thus provide new ways of making music.

This is one of the most important reasons for me to love it.
It's audio only, once you get your head around it, you'll see that it's actually a very powerful instrument in it's own right. It forces you to think outside the box.
I got EnergyXT especially to work inside 'Mulch, but I still haven't used it as such- no need.
It all depends on your workflow, I guess, though.

just a few quick questions off the top of my head:
- can i load audiomulch as a vst/i?`

No.

- if not, i can load eXT into mulch, right?

Yes.

- how low-level is it?

Not very. That is to say, not as low level as Bidule, and much less low level than PD/Reaktor/Max &c.
More low level than EnergyXY/Tracktion/Fruity Loops, though.
Low level enough, though I'd say (unless you're looking for mathmatical operators and the like).

- does it support true feedback?

Yes. I use it all the time.

well, i'll definitely give the current beta a try.

That's a good idea.
Happy Mulching!

Groet, Erik

[shamann]

I wrote a quick list of differences between Bidule, eXT, and Mulch in an old thread. This might give you some ideas:

• Bidule
  - has explicit MIDI paths and processing
  - has modular synth building blocks
  - allows for macro collections of building blocks (called groups)
  - has explicit FFT processing
  - no automation
  - has Rewire
  - has VST bridge (plugin in another host can route audio to and from Bidule)
  
  Audiomulch
  - has great internal sound generators, but they are macro modules, so no low level construction
  - Linear VST automation tracks, possibly its greatest strength
  - Most mature development. Been around a lot of years, most bugs have been weeded out
  - Metasurface, which allows you to morph between machine states.
  - Very gracefully handles plugin crashes
  - no explicit midi paths
  
  EnergyXT
  - no internal sound generators/effects/processors (well the sampler counts I guess)
  - has a piano roll style sequencer (two flavours, sequencer module and midi part, which is like a MIDI phrase sampler)
  - explicit MIDI paths, with chord and arpeggio modules
  - has built-in traditional sampler, as well as audio phrase sampler
  - Gets a new feature every day
  - runs as standalone and VST (both instrument and effect)
  -MIDI LFOs
  - no proper audio feedback (some workarounds though)

Some of the points have changed from that list, and I'm sure jens will be around soon to point out the benefits of eXT, but you get the idea.

Audiomulch is designed to be a linear performance tool, so has well implemented automation and the best VST handling of all three apps (I'd even suggest it has the best VST handling of any host out there). I use all three for different things, Bidule for its processing, eXT for its sequencing and Mulch for everything else. Mulch doesn't run as a VST, but luckily both Bidule and eXT do (more or less).

Of the three, Mulch is the only one I wouldn't go without.

[fabi]

i have read that thread a while ago, when looking around for info on bidule and eXT. i had forgotten about audiomulch's linear automation - it sounded very useful.

since i am somewhat of a number/math dyslexic, i don't want to go low modular all the way (max/msp and the likes), but eXT gave me a lot of ideas that i might be able to toy with in audiomulch. i always love to read why someone loves something...
thanks for the replies.

[pHz]

slainte rob

[aMUSEd]

please talk me into purchasing audiomulch

uhm - because I just did?

[fabi]

slainte rob

oh, audiomulch fcuks with your taskbra?

i've played with it for a bit, now, and it seems very worthwhile. some of its behavior seems a little awkward, but an applications limitations and quirks are very loveable if the rest of it stays somewhat intuitive...








(i'll leave that typo up there )

[ModuLR]

it's preset automation is by far my favorite aspect of Mulchy... it's so schweet! I wish more 'traditional' hosts has preset automation like that!