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james0tucson · Post by **james0tucson** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:22 am

Cabinfever wrote:Street slang is exactly the same as academic or trade jargon: it is terminology designed to obscure simple ideas and so exclude "non-members".

Well to be fair, some jargon is designed to minimize ambiguity and eliminate the need for repetition. Also, while I don't disagree with you, I consider most academic jargon as useful so that you don't have to explain, say, physics from the ground up every time you write a paper. For an example of why you don't want to do this, read Newton, and struggle in frustration as he reinvents calculus to start each chapter.

Left Headphone · Post by **Left Headphone** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:24 am

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annode · Post by **annode** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:28 am

I used to do a little bit of piano tuning.If there were two strings that when played together produced a rhythmic pattern...this is called beats or beating.

This could be the origin of the word in musical terms..but not sure....for what this is worth.

Carry on.

annode · Post by **annode** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:32 am

Oh...and BTW,can someone explain where the name "humpdie" to refer to a just about drivable car came from?

geoffrey · Post by **geoffrey** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:35 am

I thought it was"hooptie" that referred to a beat up ride? "Humpdie" or "Humpty" seems inextricably linked to "hump" doesn't it?(Just ask Digital Underground)

allofdrab · Post by **allofdrab** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:54 am

"I'm beat to the square, and square to the beat, and that's my vocation."
-William Everson

allofdrab · Post by **allofdrab** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:00 am

By the way, good question, I don't know what a beat is either.

Cabinfever · Post by **Cabinfever** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:07 am

james0tucson wrote:
Cabinfever wrote:Street slang is exactly the same as academic or trade jargon: it is terminology designed to obscure simple ideas and so exclude "non-members".
Well to be fair, some jargon is designed to minimize ambiguity and eliminate the need for repetition. Also, while I don't disagree with you, I consider most academic jargon as useful so that you don't have to explain, say, physics from the ground up every time you write a paper. For an example of why you don't want to do this, read Newton, and struggle in frustration as he reinvents calculus to start each chapter.

Very true. There's certainly a need for specialised terms. The art is telling that apart from deliberate obscurity.

LIMITAPROACHINGINFINITY · Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:25 am

beat = music without vocals often intended to eventually incorporate vocals later.. Maybe not though.

LIMITAPROACHINGINFINITY · Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:27 am

Its what were all here to make

freeztar · Post by **freeztar** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:01 am

reprznt wrote:I live in South Bronx and am so "hood".... Kidding. Um, I feel that "beats" is a Hip-Hop slang in certain areas. For example, I was talking to this guy from Rocafella last year. He said.. "Get me a fire beat and I will put you on". What that means is, "If you are able to provide me with an instrumental that is of sound quality, I will then present your fine workings to my boss Jay-Z". So a "beat", is synonymous with an instrumental track. if you want to learn more about how to make beats... www.warbeats.com

He's got it right. It's a common term with underground hip hop artists here in Atlanta.
For instance:
You can have phat beatz! (meaning the track is bumpin...er...sounding good)
You can have a tight flow! (meaning your rythmic approach to singing/rapping is tight...er...fat...er...unusually good)
You can beat it up! (meaning the actual process of making tracks)
That's got a phat beat yo! (meaning the drum track sounds good and accompanies the other tracks well)

Now, "beats" do have boundaries. If you use samples (ie a remix) along with your instrumental and someone says you have fat beats...then they're not talking about the acapella, but the instrumental (mainly the percussion).

Andywanders · Post by **Andywanders** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:35 am

topaz wrote:isnt teh short for terry tho ?

Maybe. But it's also Malaysian for Tea.

John Vulich · Post by **John Vulich** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:07 am

Beat --->

Hovmod · Post by **Hovmod** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:12 am

Every few years one should have one's jargon serviced, so the young, who never used words in their original context in their lives, don't think one is hopelessly antiquated. If that means getting used to calling a "backing track" a "beat", or using the term "a capella" for "vocal parts", so be it.

Those who don't think it's a good idea might want to put on "Key Largo" and remember that Bogart was as cool as they came in 1948...
(some awesome black'n'white hurricane footage in that one as well)

OK, cats - gotta go "tape" some "grooves".

Andywanders · Post by **Andywanders** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:41 am

Don't know much about jargon...

But these guys know about beats...

Dennis Chambers

Bill Bruford

Omar Hakim

Etc...

What, exactly, is a "beat?"