KVR Audio

saturdaysaint · Post by **saturdaysaint** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:08 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:AFAIK there isnt the delay compensation that Cubase offers, although Voxengo's latency delay should compensate for that.

Also, in Sonar 5 you can set up Track Presets for your synths or effects busses of choice with the input port, delay compensation, track icon, etc.

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:12 pm

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 5:17 pm

I can see I'll be in good company as a Sonar 5 owner that's nice to know...

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 6:41 pm

Oh well, maybe I should think again about buying this. I have installed the latest demo (4.01) but there's something not right. It's a bit weird though - I can record a fairly CPU intensive softsynth like Dimension without glitches but trying to do something as simple as record an audio input from my Workstation is producing the most appalling dropouts and the audio engine shuts itself down!! There's next to no activity on the CPU meter (shouldn't be really) so I don't know what's causing this - I'd understand with a CPU intensive synth or lots of tracks (though it would still be strange considering the power of my system) but one audio track from a hardware synth?! I don't have this problem in Project 5 2 or anything else.

xylyx · Post by **xylyx** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:39 pm

I think this is a known issue which occurred in the 4.03 patch and a 4.04 update is due out that is supposed to prevent this. Apparently this is not a problem in v5.

jlot · Post by **jlot** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:56 pm

Hink, when did you place your order? I didn't place mine until 9/21 night, but my card has not yet been charged. I guess their sales dept must be short-staffed and/or overwhelmed right now? I've never ordered from Cakewalk direct before, so am unfamiliar with their process... Usually when you order stuff online you get a shipping confirmation within 24 hours, weird... Guess I'll call them on Monday to verify if I don't hear anything by then.

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:32 pm

jlot wrote:Hink, when did you place your order? I didn't place mine until 9/21 night, but my card has not yet been charged. I guess their sales dept must be short-staffed and/or overwhelmed right now? I've never ordered from Cakewalk direct before, so am unfamiliar with their process... Usually when you order stuff online you get a shipping confirmation within 24 hours, weird... Guess I'll call them on Monday to verify if I don't hear anything by then.

I ordered mine on Wednesday and I did get a notification email right away, dated wednesday the 21st

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Give em call, there's the number...

flugel45 · Post by **flugel45** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:47 am

I'm currently using Sonar 4PE, and do plan to upgrade to Version 5, but will likely do so after the first maintenance patch has been released.

Scott Garrigus's Sonar 5 Power won't be out for a couple months yet anyway, so I figure I've got good reason to wait (No offense, Cakewalk; I do applaud you for giving us a printed manual, but I honestly haven't read the last couple versions, ever since I found Scott's excellent book).

JD

ResonantOrder · Post by **ResonantOrder** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:49 am

xylyx wrote:I think this is a known issue which occurred in the 4.03 patch and a 4.04 update is due out that is supposed to prevent this. Apparently this is not a problem in v5.

Just adding on here. The drop-out problem seemed to affect people at random with each release from 4 to 4.03. Cakewalk re-wrote the audio engine for 4.03 and it fixed almost everyone's problems. With the release of 5, Cakewalk has stated that they will continue to fix past versions starting with 4. The next release by them will be 4.04 to bring the 4 version up to the stability of 5.

Personally, I've never had the problem and some of my tracks go 70+. ASIO seems to be less stable than WDM for my taste. I use echo products.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:01 am

aMUSEd ; I had a similar issue on S4 when I first got it; recording was dropping out every 30s or so for a few seconds. Increasing the length/number of the audio buffers sorted it out. A few patches later I remembered to drop it back again and its been fine.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:32 am

whyterabbyt wrote:aMUSEd ; I had a similar issue on S4 when I first got it; recording was dropping out every 30s or so for a few seconds. Increasing the length/number of the audio buffers sorted it out. A few patches later I remembered to drop it back again and its been fine.

That's exactly it - it played fine for the first 30 odd seconds then suddenly the dropouts and when I ignored them and carried on recording the audio engine choked and stopped. I might wait to see if they update the demo then to make sure it is fixed for my system.

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:43 am

Try playing with the audio buffers in the meantime....

jlot · Post by **jlot** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:31 am

Thanks Hink - I got the same order confirm email, but no notification of actual shipment nor has my card been charged yet... Hoping it gets shipped out on Monday then, I can imagine they've gotten a ton of orders. I'm just very anxious, lol... I got a new M-Audio Firwire 410 last weekend and can't wait to start on some projects... then I saw S5 was coming out and decided to hold off starting anything new until I get that installed.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:12 pm

whyterabbyt wrote:Try playing with the audio buffers in the meantime....

OK - do you mean the buffers in my ASIO latency settings (which I have to do through Sciope's own settings panel and can't do using Sonar's) or do you mean the bit in the advanced tab in Sonar where it says "io buffer size" (or both)

I've tried setting ASIO latency to maximum and that does stop the dropouts but then it means I have to put up with 23ms latency which isn't so great for the softsynths. I don't know what to det the IO buffer's to - at the moment they are at 128 - I've also got caching ticked and dithering - do I need those?

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:25 pm

Its the IO Buffer size. I wound up changing them to something like 1024 or 2048K. Really cant remember what caching settings I had back then, sorry.

Sonar 5 now shipping