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duncanparsons · Post by **duncanparsons** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:46 am

whyterabbyt wrote:hifiboom Quoth "An ultra smoothed out reverb will never sound good in a mix"

surely? You seem to have dropped what we love you for! I hereby call for a return to form (even if it does take more work!)

All those in favour, hijack this thread!

(sorry.. err..)

Actually, I do like the sound of this 'verb, but I find the sound similar to many of the settings on GlaceVerb, and just a little toooo dense for it to be of any real to me and what I do. If I was doing more soundtrack stuff, it would be a great tool.
But I'm not.

ATB to those who use it, but Ambience does me fine.

DSP

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:49 am

hifiboom wrote:I have tried all vst reverbs, and none did convince me.

That must have taken some time.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:51 am

nuffink wrote:
hifiboom wrote:I have tried all vst reverbs, and none did convince me.
That must have taken some time.

jeah about 8 years I think ....

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:53 am

That must make you well into your twenties at least. And you still haven't got beyond trance? Why would I take any notice of your views on anything to do with music?

duncanparsons · Post by **duncanparsons** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:54 am

hifiboom wrote:
nuffink wrote:
hifiboom wrote:I have tried all vst reverbs, and none did convince me.
That must have taken some time.
jeah about 8 years I think ....

If it hadn't been for those long tails, you might have done it in five...

DSP

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:57 am

duncanparsons wrote:
hifiboom wrote:
nuffink wrote:
hifiboom wrote:I have tried all vst reverbs, and none did convince me.
That must have taken some time.
jeah about 8 years I think ....
If it hadn't been for those long tails, you might have done it in five...

DSP

lol, jeah I like long lush hall reverbs...

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:58 am

hifiboom quoth

no its just my personal opinion,and and ignorant person like you just don`t accept it!

Who the hell are you calling ignorant you arrogant little dick. You classified all convolution reverbs as 'toys' without even knowing how your precious little favourite works. You don't even know what an impulse response is. You don't know why recording studios avoid parallel walls.

I dont give a damn what your opinions are. You've spent this whole thread spouting uninformed bullshit, all to support your little evangelical bollocks about how you fave little toy is 'best'. We don't care.

All it took was saying 'hey I like this, you should check it out', but you've gone on and on and on about it as though its a primary frigging revelation.

Here's the news, sunshine; its not. So stop behaving as though it is; especially when you're getting so many of your 'facts' wrong along the way.

I have tried all vst reverbs, and none did convince me.

So what? That doesnt make this 'best', just your favourite.

And the convolution reverbs also do not sound like the real thing, I miss some transients and the movement of real hardware...

Again, so what? That means absolutely nothing to anyone else on the planet. At all.

while this tool somethimes has some "bad resonances" it just sound good in a mix.

To you.

I did not say this reverb is perfect....

No, you said it was 'the best'.

whats the problem?

Nothing a few minutes ago. Now, its the fact that a twat like you calls me 'ignorant' just because I point out that what suits you doesnt necessarily suit anyone else. Particularly when you're so confused over basic facts in the first place.

(Proper quothing reinstated here for Duncan)

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:58 am

Many of the reverbs sound perfectly smooth, but if I put them more then 10% on vocal it just sounds to "sterile", like the person would be in space.

This RaySpace Verb has the density and the life to bring vocals to hall/rooms you could easily use in post production... other reverbs just can`t do that...
big halls on the RaySpace remind me of the Quantec Yardstick Reverb, which was a extremly realistic one, often used for post production...

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:02 pm

We don't care

you meant: you don`t care...

The rest you wrote:
I don`t care

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:03 pm

hifiboom quoth Many of the reverbs sound perfectly smooth, but if I put them more then 10% on vocal it just sounds to "sterile", like the person would be in space.

Opinion, not fact.

This RaySpace Verb has the density and the life to bring vocals to hall/rooms you could easily use in post production...

Opinion, not fact.

other reverbs just can`t do that...

Opinion, not fact.

shanecgriffo · Post by **shanecgriffo** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:07 pm

...seventh from melbourne!!.. err well nearer geelong actually.. but thats all pretty irrelevent now i guess. sorry for taking up space

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:11 pm

I don`t know in what buisness you are:

But for music production:

its alway opinion, never fact!!!

you just don`t know how to discuss...

If the dry signal is ignorant the response is also..

thats the way I think about it.

just read the first posts in this thread, I asked what others think about this tool as I found it too be very good.

The two other reverb vst tools, I think that are very good are ArtsAcoustic and Wizoo Reverb...so I compared them with real sounds...

you could test yourself and assign the WMA files to the specific reverb...

fritzman · Post by **fritzman** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:17 pm

hifiboom wrote:I am not sure if you like the kind of sound I produce... its more trance....and you seem to be mor in the metal department...

but you live in the same country ... cheers

And all I said is what I THINK ....

Hi hifiboom,

I like good trance and I'm not in any department. I'm versatile.

So gimme a link to your music please. After all we're talking about reverbs here. I'm an audio engineer and I can look beyond music I -might- not like.

Best wishes, FRitz

P.S. It makes it easier for other people to accept the fact that YOU THINK when you say so. Statements like "This is poor stuff!" if not marked as your opinion will probably lead to the now obvious reactions.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:18 pm

I got some sound demos online, but not my complete tracks
http://home.arcor.de/bdk2003/

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:26 pm

hifiboom wrote:I don`t know in what buisness you are:

But for music production:

its alway opinion, never fact!!!

Yeah, that would be nice. Except, what actually happens is you find a bunch of assholes telling you that you 'must' use XXXX and 'the best things is ZZZ' and 'all QQQ are just toys' and the last thing they'll ever agree is that what they're saying is mere opinion and not fact.

you just don`t know how to discuss...

No, actually its you who doesnt.

If the dry signal is ignorant the response is also.. thats the way I think about it.

Considering the circumstances of someone saying all convolution reverb is 'a toy' but how much they love a convolution-based reverb, I think you might want to reconsider what is 'ignorant' here.

just read the first posts in this thread, I asked what others think about this tool as I found it too be very good.

No, actually you didnt. Your second post calls it 'tbest VST reverb...'

And you didnt ask a single other opinion. Ever.

The QuikQuak is a killer right now.... believe me!!!

In fact you actually tell people what kind of sound they're looking for.

You all are searching for smooth sounding reverb, and than you wonder why the reverb does not fit into the mix perfectly...

So your whole 'I really was just stating opinion' line here is just crap. You're even making assumptions about what kind of sound people are looking for.

Quik Quak RaySpace Best Reverb Ever?