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emdot_ambient · Post by **emdot_ambient** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:22 pm

Hovmod wrote:...This theme is giving me a zillion ideas.)

Same here . . . So many mangles to do!

I've armed myself with a bunch of old tunes. Sure are a lot of dead links in the archives

Should be wild spooky fun.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:51 am

This is hopeless. I just spent three hours producing random senseless garbage in Abletion Live. I saved it for review tomorrow, but I am sue it is absolute nonsense.

paradiddle · Post by **paradiddle** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:16 am

hehehe. If it scares little children, that's good enought for fright night.

Wopelka · Post by **Wopelka** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:31 am

Beardedone wrote:random senseless garbage

my favorite type of music.

give me your atonal, polyrythmic, melodyless piece (mine is almost ready, too)

Markleford · Post by **Markleford** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:42 am

Beardedone wrote:This is hopeless. I just spent three hours producing random senseless garbage in Abletion Live. I saved it for review tomorrow, but I am sue it is absolute nonsense.

Sounds like my experience with my May entry! Took me about a month after to decide it was actually kind of okay.

Naturally, we are our own harshest critics.

- m

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:32 pm

Maybe, but it bothers me that I was just thrown together with a "whatever works" MO. That is not composition to my way of thinking. It's akin to throwing paint a surface in the dark and calling it art.

If I can generate some chord changes (without a steady groove which would ruin any scariness) and mess with some sounds over them then I'll respect it more.

Barnadine · Post by **Barnadine** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:39 pm

You don't like Pollock?

Wopelka · Post by **Wopelka** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:45 pm

Beardedone wrote:That is not composition to my way of thinking. It's akin to throwing paint a surface in the dark and calling it art.

mmmh tempting to start a polemic regarding the definition of art... i'll restrain myself...

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:46 pm

Pollock kept the lights on at least. I like Pollock a lot.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:50 pm

Beardedone wrote:
That is not composition to my way of thinking. It's akin to throwing paint a surface in the dark and calling it art.

mmmh tempting to start a polemic regarding the definition of art... i'll restrain myself...

Yeah it could get SCARY! My thesis is that thought, feeling and humanity must drive the creative/expressive process. Whether or not you can explain how it is done it, should be there - felt seen and or heard in hopefully indeliblly impressive manner in the final results.

You™ · Post by **You™** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:06 pm

Beardedone wrote:Maybe, but it bothers me that I was just thrown together with a "whatever works" MO. That is not composition to my way of thinking. It's akin to throwing paint a surface in the dark and calling it art.

Are you saying this is a bad thing? It's the way I work all the time - in every medium. It's the way I compose, paint, program, cook, even make love. It's the way I live my life and raise my children. Why the need for the illusion of control? Relax and enjoy what chance offers.

I have three simple rules (which I often break) for creative endeavors:

1) Don't put more into a project than others will possibly get out of it. Otherwise it's a hobby. Music is a hobby of mine.

2) If you have to explain your work's significance, then it isn't working. Good art is self-explanitory.

3) If you don't think rules 1 and 2 don't apply to you, consider collaboration and/or serendipitous methods as part your creative process.

"Thought, feeling and humanity" are relative and ambiguous terms. Any act of creation (maybe any action by a human) would invoke some measure of those concepts. I think art is more importantly found in observation rather than deliberation. It's in the eye of the beholder, you know.

(I started writing this and then several other posts occurred. I might be a little out of order.)

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:13 pm

Interesting POV, George. I guess I am still a goal-directed Scientist at heart. I can't let go of the idea that I must be in control.

You™ · Post by **You™** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:20 pm

I'm a process-oriented dilettante.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:27 pm

I don't believe you!

Wopelka · Post by **Wopelka** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:38 pm

as for me, one of the best, most interesting part of my creative process is related to the unexpected, mistakes, randomness, coincidences, etc.

i'm more a seeker, an adventurer, than a ingineer . Experimentation is what makes the art of composition interesting to me. i like to be surprised by my work, by its growth. i want my work to live from its own life. i'm its birth assistant, not its master.

the ordonnance often comes afterward, as a structuring post-production stage.

october ordeal ... GOSSIP