KVR Audio

seamoss · Post by **seamoss** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:53 pm

AudioWhore wrote:In Cubase you can open VSTis and wavs while the sequencer is playing.

you can't do this in sonar?

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:02 am

seamoss wrote:
AudioWhore wrote:In Cubase you can open VSTis and wavs while the sequencer is playing.

you can't do this in sonar?

That's true; you can't insert a DXi during playback. I don't know what he meant by "open wavs" though...I guess hea meant you can't edit them during playback i n SONAR, which you can in Cubase. That is a nice perk, I find.

Oh, and that stupid preview feature in SONAR when you're doing destructive edits with a plug-in - you have to wait for the effect to render, then you can hear the preview. I never liked that.

I guess that is one area (haven't tried SONAR 5 yet) that Cubase might have a leg up on SONAR - the immediacy of the audio engine. You can bounce clips, import files, insert synths, etc, all during playback!

Oh yeah - and all the SONAR warning dialogues; like you get that Copy & Paste dialogue - every single ctrl+V!!! And the What to Delete dialogue, every time you press "delete". That's something that drove me away from Sonar, for sure. I forgot about that.

AudioWhore · Post by **AudioWhore** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:02 am

you cant load up new things while the sequencer is playing. Everything is start stop start in sonar. I remember having to constantly press the space bar when i wanted to open up new stuff.

Cubase seems to be more geared towards real time use.

Cabinfever · Post by **Cabinfever** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:06 am

I vote that "which host" threads join politics and religion in the "never-ending useless debate" area.

Canned Heat · Post by **Canned Heat** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:09 am

besides of all pros about Sonar mentioned above it has two great featues I doubt Cubase or other host have (I don't know) - CAL script & Studioware - I know a little about them but anyone with some knowledge of them can do many many things in Sonar. that's a big Highlight!

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:14 am

Canned Heat wrote:besides of all pros about Sonar mentioned above it has two great featues I doubt Cubase or other host have (I don't know) - CAL script & Studioware - I know a little about them but anyone with some knowledge of them can do many many things in Sonar. that's a big Highlight!

Cubase has a Studioware type thing now, where you can design your UI's and control external gear, etc.

CAL script, no; Sonar's up on that.

AudioWhore · Post by **AudioWhore** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:25 am

Yeah but i just wanna make music. Not totally lose the vibe because im writing script code. An option for the serious tweekers only.

WillieJenkins · Post by **WillieJenkins** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:57 am

cubase and sonar are woeful for 'real time use', they're both pathetically inadequate.

If Ableton Live is a 10
P5 is a 9
FLStudio is a 9
Cubase is a 3
Sonar is a 2

weird point to be arguing

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:36 am

WillieJenkins wrote:cubase and sonar are woeful for 'real time use', they're both pathetically inadequate.

If Ableton Live is a 10
P5 is a 9
FLStudio is a 9
Cubase is a 3
Sonar is a 2

weird point to be arguing

We weren't talking about other sequencers, the original guy was asking about...oh, never mind.

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:44 am

Cabinfever · Post by **Cabinfever** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:21 am

I feel that me posting stupid photos will be of equal or greater value than most of the other opinionated and worthless ranting. Enjoy.[/img]

AudioWhore · Post by **AudioWhore** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:23 am

cubase and sonar are woeful for 'real time use', they're both pathetically inadequate.

If Ableton Live is a 10
P5 is a 9
FLStudio is a 9
Cubase is a 3
Sonar is a 2

weird point to be arguing

yeah i know i know.. But this is for serious studio work that involves Midi Hardware and Software. Cubase and Sonar still beat Ableton, P5, and Fruity in my oppinion.

WilliamK · Post by **WilliamK** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:24 am

kevink wrote:
Rownin wrote:The "native" vst support in Sonar 5 still sucks. They just integrated their crappy vst wrapper in de main program. It still doesn't scan vst's properly: you have to manually put settings for pdc, tempo based etc. and you get a long list of plugins. All your work in sorting your plugins in folders is lost that way.
That does suck a bit, but then again I, like most long-time Sonar users, have already invested in DirectiXer. ;o)

Question, I'm still using the Sonar4 Wrapper. What are the advantages of using DirectiXer instead?

Wk

AudioWhore · Post by **AudioWhore** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:25 am

I feel that me posting stupid photos will be of equal or greater value than most of the other opinionated and worthless ranting. Enjoy.[/img]

True!

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Sat Oct 08, 2005 2:30 am

WilliamK wrote:Question, I'm still using the Sonar4 Wrapper. What are the advantages of using DirectiXer instead?

I found DirectiXer much easier to use and more stable.

Considering a move from Sonar to Cubase..