KVR Audio

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:18 am

ANyone have these? I'd like to know if they lack bottom bottom end

jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:28 am

nope - they don't - they're great!

(I've got the passive ones...)

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:29 am

even with LOW bass? i make dnb so it's crucial. How does it handle 808 kicks?

jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:35 am

if I pull up the bass-fq on my amp and push loudness (which I rarely do though) it stays clean and defined but pretty much shakes my flat (and my neighbours...

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jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:36 am

they also sell a subwoofer for them b.t.w. even if I don't know what the need for it could be... (after all they are nearfield-monitors, aren't they?)

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:37 am

what is the difference between passive and active? (sorry im a total newbie when it leaves the software realm). Is that the difference between self-powered and not?

flex42 · Post by **flex42** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:08 am

Chase wrote:what is the difference between passive and active? (sorry im a total newbie when it leaves the software realm). Is that the difference between self-powered and not?

yes, active = inbuilt amp

ps: also thinking about getting those...

DevonB · Post by **DevonB** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:21 am

Low bass? I think they have a 60hz roll off on the bottom end. I do have a pair of Monitor One's, and have for about 8 years I think now? I love 'em. Yes, they do have pretty good bass, but they are near field monitors. Near fields aren't supposed to be 'super bass-y'. I passed on the Monitor Two's because they were more bass heavy, but they are mid-fields, and don't have the room behind my mix desk to place them far enough back to be in the appropriate position anyway.

If you want bass, get a sub. Don't expect near field montiors to give you the 'ultimate' low bass.

Devon

ResonantOrder · Post by **ResonantOrder** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:26 am

If your doing DNB, then you have to have a sub to check your mixes with.

The original M1s don't have as low a bass range as the new M1mk2s do. But, they do have a much more detailed mid and upper range. The new ones seemed muffled in the mids. For me, detailed mids are crucial for a proper mix. I've had my M1s for about 3 years now, and I've got some mackies on the way. Woo hoo.

kazakore · Post by **kazakore** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:00 am

Think I might get a set of the mk2 version of these as they seem to be available cheap at the moment and I need some nfm's for mastering. Always have my other speakers and headphones to compare against, which should hopefully make up for any lack of bass as I will mostly being doing hardcore and jungle

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:57 am

They are always cheap since they started making them in China so don't be fooled into thinking you have to buy them now.

aldoofbanga · Post by **aldoofbanga** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:25 am

I have the MK2's and for their size they have nice bottom end, but a sub will give you a better idea of sub 50hz action. I heard the tapco's are excellent in this price range (s8's).

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:46 am

I've got a pair of monitor two's on loan. They are, without doubt, the worst monitor loudspeaker I've ever heard.
I've used the monitor one's. They're marginally better in as much as there is less to go wrong. They're still very bad.
I'd never buy a pair of speakers from Alesis.

Barbarossa · Post by **Barbarossa** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:01 am

I also have 7 passive M1MkII (for 7.x surround mixing).
And i'm very satisfied with them.
Ofcourse there are better monitors (but not for that price).
Their overall sound is linear and good enough to hear (almost) everything i need to hear (the only thing that counts is, what you hear with them).
IMO treble are excellent to judge.
Also the stereo-field.
The mids are good enough and they also have a decent bass-range. But you will need a subwoofer for final judgements.

I can work hours with them without tiring my ears.
Oh, and i can use them at low levels, which is very important IMO.
They also tranfer good to other systems.

They are an excellent choice as first monitors, because they grow with your ears. Maybe you will even never need more expensive ones.

And last but not least: if you want, you can later easily upgrade to surround-mixing - for almost no money.

IMO price/value of the passive M1s is unreached.

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:05 am

Barbarossa wrote:Their overall sound is linear and good enough to hear (almost) everything i need to hear (the only thing that counts is, what you hear with them).

That's rubbish I'm afraid.
Monitors are not domestic loudspeakers which can be tailored for an enjoyable sound. They can and should be compared against an objective reality. They should be designed to accurately reproduce the signal fed to them.

Judged on this basis Alesis don't cut it.

Alesis M1 monitors