True Stereo Side-Chaining in Cubase SX3 !!

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If anyone interested how to do it :)
Detailed description of "True Stereo Side-Chaining" with
Voxengo Crunchessor in Cubase SX3:
(testet with Crunchessor1.6 und Cubase SX3.1.0.933)
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The following example will use a kick drum track to duck/compress a bass line track:

1) Define a new Quadro Group and in this group 2 child/sub-groups ("Stereo" and "Stereo (Rs Ls)").
(How to do: See Page19 in Operation Manual of SX3)
2) Route Bass track directly to "Stereo" of the Quadro group.
3) Route Kick track directly (or with Pre-Fader Send (see below)) to "Stereo (Rs Ls)" of the Quadro group.
4) Insert crunchessor in an insert-slot of the Quadro group.
Start with the preset "Club is pumping" (or pull the Drive-knob to maximum)
in Crunchessor to see/hear the effect.
Choose a Side-Chain channel in crunchessor (in this case "SC: 3+4").
Leave the Crunchessor window open to see the effect via the gain reduction meter:
When the kick drum sets in, the bass track will be ducked/compressed according to the
compressor settings applied to the plug-in.

Routing with Pre-Fader Send:
Why this method ?
Of course you can route the kick track directly to the Quadro group,
but you won't hear the kick drum at the stereo output bus in this case.
a) Route a send-slot of the kick track to the Quadro group and activate this send-slot.
b) Set Pre-Fader switch to ON (the "at" symbol).
(This is necessary to retain the control over the volume slider for the kick track)
c) Set the Send-Amount slider to 0 (CTRL left click on the slider).

If you dont' have Crunchessor, there's a nice freebie for stereo side-chaining here:
http://www.geocities.jp/webmaster_of_ss ... tml#sidech

Happy Side-Chaining !
Last edited by PeterL on Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:53 pm, edited 4 times in total.

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In SX2 it is also possible, but not so easy, because you can't define child/sub-groups here.
If anyone is intererested in SC for SX2. go here:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=72851

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cheers. will give it a go
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Cubase users have my deepest condolence... ;)

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Barbarossa wrote:Cubase users have my deepest condolence... ;)
:D :D
You are probably a happy energyXT user !? :wink:

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Actually, almost any host these days will do it easily except Cubase. ;) Tracktion here.
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Can't say I find it particularly difficult in SX. When you've done it once, you find it makes perfect sense, the way it's implemented. And I still only use SX2. :P

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Sorry to pull up such an old thread. But was wondering why when I am hitting pre-fade I am still getting my kick signal coming through?
I need to take a copy of just the bass, with the side chain effect, but not the kick.

Is there any other ways to go about it?
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Well, depends. Do you send the "control signal" to the right channels?

In case of Slim Slow Slider's sidechain compressor, I remember the "second stereo buss" (or second mono ones, which ever version you used) was for the control signal. The "main" buss was for the signal to be compressed/ducked.

So you actually send the bass drum (control signal) to LS/RS (Stereo Surround) and the Bass to L/R (Stereo) of the quad group.

BTW:
Still still works in more recent Cubase versions with old and non-native-sidechaining (aka VST2.x technology) plugins.


Also, this might belong to hosts, even though it's over 6 years old!
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