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disturb · Post by **disturb** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:13 pm

A friend of mine got really lucky and is going all acoustic, so he wants to get rid of some of his sample libraries. I can get some great ones for really cheap (hey we're friends

), but they are all in GIGA format...

There is no way i'd want to take the gigastudio plunge, so I'm looking for the best way (sampler and/or conversion app) to use them without having to use Gigastudio (something that could make a patch referring to the original samples in the gig files would be the best).

These GIGA files are mostly some realistic instruments that i wouldn't tweak a lot, so i could bear with any sampler i guess...

Therefore, do you know :

-Any sampler that supports the giga format ('natively'?) particularily well?
-Any sample convertor that can make a really accurate patch for a particular sampler ?

I'd really like to put the emphasis on the accuracy of the patch conversion rather than just the possibility to convert. I've been told that some samplers support a lot of formats, but in the end a large part ofthe tweakings are left aside, which makes the patches pretty dull.

I don't have any good sampler right now, but i was thinking about getting kontakt2, i'm not sure this one is the most suited for this purpose...

Any insight ?

cheers

Bennett · Post by **Bennett** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:28 pm

K2 is very powerful, but the most economical solution would be GS3 Solo for maximum compatibility. Users of K2 seem to have varied results with GS2.5 or GS3 import. Also while K2 has it's own convolution engine, it cannot reproduce GigaPulse effects of GS3.

disturb · Post by **disturb** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:34 pm

I read you Bennet, but I've read tons of comments about the hassle of running GS on your main daw, and i can't afford all that AND a new dedicated system...
And to tell you the truth I'm not sure i'd want that even if i had the money, I'd rather have the samples loaded in a sampler in my vst rack, just as any other instrument.
Maybe i'll pass if there is no way to use them properly in anything else than GS... ?

Bennett · Post by **Bennett** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:27 am

Yes I agree that some users have had difficulty running GS3 on their DAW, but there are many more who have no problem. I run GS3 on my DAW with Trackion and I have had no issues whatsoever. I run Norton AV, some games

and other things on my GS3/T2 DAW.

Of course your experience may differ, but mine has been overwhelmingly positive with GS3. GS3 Solo is only $149 on-line so really it isn't a big layout - less than many VI's and certainly less than K2.

I also hear ya on native VST format, but GS3 also supports ReWire so you can control it through your sequencer pretty easily.

I'd recommend downloading the demo and giving it a shot. I've used HALion in the past and its GS import sketchy, I also evaluated Kontakt and it is really good, but I preferred the UI of GS as well as the "future proof" possibility of networking my DAW and a dedicated GS3 machine like many GS3 power users.

Hope this helps!

Artgiver · Post by **Artgiver** » Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:40 am

Translator Pro is 'supposed' to translate G3 files better than any conversion app out there. I own it and it was awesome on some Roland samples that i converted.
I've also read in several forums that K2 imports G3 files better than other samplers, yet i wouldn't know.

flugel45 · Post by **flugel45** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:37 am

Are these giga samples v3, or the older sets? If they're the older 16 bit, you may be in luck.

RGCAudio's sfz+ original beta (v1.0) with giga support plays them NATIVELY, meaning no translation, and they sound great. I have this version and 5 older giga CDs and it does a great job of playing them. (I never bought Gigastudio).

Now here's where the luck comes in -- someone will have to sell you his sfz+ 1.0, as this giga supported version is no longer available. Wouldn't hurt to put a "WANTED" ad in the marketplace forum. I imagine some who bought the beta have moved on to Giga3 or kontakt and don't need sfz+ anymore, especially since it hasn't been updated in almost 2 years. So assuming these are older libraries you're talking about, you stand a pretty good chance of finding a seller.

JD

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:32 am

Also look at VSampler3.

Caleb

disturb · Post by **disturb** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:21 pm

Unfortunately half of these are the 24bit version, which, i believe, are supposed to be used in GS3...

About VSampler3 Caleb, are you mentionning it cause you're one of the users who love it and can't stand it's not as well know as they think it should, or is it really good with GS files (even the v.3 ones) ?

Thanks for all the answers so far, now i have a few more hints...

Best way to handle GIGA samples without GS ?