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bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:40 pm

Hey, that's a fun idea!

verstaerker · Post by **verstaerker** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:42 pm

i don't promise - i don't know if i find the time - but i'll try to bring a sample tomorrow

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:48 pm

snooky wrote:"and nothing compares - to youuu!"

thanx

nothing can match the uad plugs IMO

hang on i have a uad-1

djsubject · Post by **djsubject** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:50 pm

jens wrote:
verstaerker wrote:sorry - the Kjaerhus Compressors are very good (and i use GCO a lot) - but the sound is nothing like the 1176

if u use this after GCO u can get a nice warm sound
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1019.html

but not the qualtiy of the 1176
let's do it like in the other thread:

you post an example of what unique sound the 1176 can achieve and also post the dry sample and I try to match it - deal?

can i play when i get home on wensday?

it will be a drum loop

Subz

Funkybot · Post by **Funkybot** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:02 pm

I took the acoustic guitar sample from that UAD-1 website, and tried to approximate the sound and settings on the Kjaerhus GCO-1, and got very close (did the same with the LA2A and the bass example and got extremely close). The thing to pay the most attention when doing this, is the attack and release times of the original units, as well as the knee and the type of compression. The LA2A was more difficult to approximate than the 1176 because the LA2A is an Opto compressor with a second release stage (which GCO-1 can also have). In all honesty, by the end of this experiment I was not be able to tell any of these apart from the original UAD-1 processed versions in blind testing. If you want, I could provide the presets once I get home from work. If you want em, PM me. And if you don't believe me, just read up on how these units work, what their attack and release times are (or range to) what their knee's look like, etc, then go to the UAD-1 page and download the processed and unprocessed examples as well as the settings from the originals and within a few minutes you'll be so close you'll be amazed. Seriously, try it folks. If you have it set up right, and could consistently hear the difference in a blind test I'd be amazed.

jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:22 pm

djsubject wrote: can I play when I get home on wednesday?

it will be a drum loop

Subz

yeah, sure - Great!

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:49 pm

For what it's worth, I got the BuzComp BCL101 compressor sounding pretty close on that acoustic guitar sample. But the compression they used doesn't sound particularily distinctive. You need drums to test it out, and Vinnie Colaiuta™ is not sharing.

Dry

UAD 1176

BuzComp BCL101

Be sure to check out Buzcomp's stuff; he's making some amazing plugins for dirt cheap. His mastering compressors rival Waves!

4damind · Post by **4damind** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:55 pm

I think the LA-2A has an attack of approx. 9ms and a static ratio of 4:1? The amount of peak reduction is the same a the threshold ?

Mmh... GCO has a opto-mode and it could be that after some tweaking the results are similar to an LA-2A.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:02 pm

bduffy wrote:For what it's worth, I got the BuzComp BCL101 compressor sounding pretty close on that acoustic guitar sample. But the compression they used doesn't sound particularily distinctive. You need drums to test it out, and Vinnie Colaiuta™ is not sharing.

Dry

UAD 1176

BuzComp BCL101

Be sure to check out Buzcomp's stuff; he's making some amazing plugins for dirt cheap. His mastering compressors rival Waves!

Waves isn't all that, so hardly a good comparison, but in their own right, the BUZ comps and limiters are great..I use the buzmaxi all the time

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:35 pm

snooky wrote:
bduffy wrote:For what it's worth, I got the BuzComp BCL101 compressor sounding pretty close on that acoustic guitar sample. But the compression they used doesn't sound particularily distinctive. You need drums to test it out, and Vinnie Colaiuta™ is not sharing.

Dry

UAD 1176

BuzComp BCL101

Be sure to check out Buzcomp's stuff; he's making some amazing plugins for dirt cheap. His mastering compressors rival Waves!
Waves isn't all that, so hardly a good comparison, but in their own right, the BUZ comps and limiters are great..I use the buzmaxi all the time

I guess, if you say so...just considering how much they cost, it makes BuzComp all the more impressive, I thought.

arturmeinild · Post by **arturmeinild** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:29 pm

Although I don't own the UAD 1176 I would suspect the PSP Audio VintageWarmer could do something similar...

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:47 pm

Actually, the PSP MixPressor is supposed to have 1176/LA-like compression, come to think of it.

EDIT: oh yeah, here it is:

arturmeinild · Post by **arturmeinild** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:11 pm

Nice find, bduffy...

That has got to be the closest approximation...

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:15 pm

hohoho...and how's that?

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:19 pm

arturmeinild wrote:Nice find, bduffy... That has got to be the closest approximation...

Thanks I used to use this on drums all the time, but for some reason I forgot about it...time to revisit!

native/VST alternative for UAD 1176?