Line 6 POD or use virtual effects/amp?
- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
If you're satisfied with the software's sound, go for the software. Definitely.
I have a Flextone II (=Pod amp) and I HATE to have to pick all amp settings before recording, instead of being able to REAMP my takes. I've thrown away very good takes cause of the amp settings I recorded them at, if the guitar sound is plain wrong for the track what can you do? (Big deal to me as I hardly ever get round to play some guitar)
If you don't like the soft amp sims' sound, use the Pod. Or get a Pod or whatever that does reamping (the upcoming Line6 Guitar Port or what's it called again looks nice for computer users)
I have a Flextone II (=Pod amp) and I HATE to have to pick all amp settings before recording, instead of being able to REAMP my takes. I've thrown away very good takes cause of the amp settings I recorded them at, if the guitar sound is plain wrong for the track what can you do? (Big deal to me as I hardly ever get round to play some guitar)
If you don't like the soft amp sims' sound, use the Pod. Or get a Pod or whatever that does reamping (the upcoming Line6 Guitar Port or what's it called again looks nice for computer users)
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 6 Dec, 2003 from Mission Control
I bought my XT two years ago and have kinda been thinking I could use software and put the XT on ebay... I don't think I can do that anymore.
I spent last week going through all the software I could get my hands on. I recorded riffs and licks with drums samples and live bass. At least 2 live guitar tracks each then mixed down because I wanted to get a real feel for how the sound would work in a mix.
When you really crank up the gain you crank up the digital noise too. Digital noise is very different from anaolg noise. If you put a noisegate inline to mask the noise you get a springy noise sound everytime the gate opens. This happend with everything I tried, even my own "Guitar Shop" I knew something was driving me nuts and now I know what.
Lot's of guitar tracks = lots of springy noise. 4 tracks is unbareable.
Now that I know for sure what it was, I can't stand it!! I don't think I could ever use software again and like it. If you aren't going to overdrive all of your tracks software might work as a decent EQ device but not for me.
Regards
I spent last week going through all the software I could get my hands on. I recorded riffs and licks with drums samples and live bass. At least 2 live guitar tracks each then mixed down because I wanted to get a real feel for how the sound would work in a mix.
When you really crank up the gain you crank up the digital noise too. Digital noise is very different from anaolg noise. If you put a noisegate inline to mask the noise you get a springy noise sound everytime the gate opens. This happend with everything I tried, even my own "Guitar Shop" I knew something was driving me nuts and now I know what.
Lot's of guitar tracks = lots of springy noise. 4 tracks is unbareable.
Now that I know for sure what it was, I can't stand it!! I don't think I could ever use software again and like it. If you aren't going to overdrive all of your tracks software might work as a decent EQ device but not for me.
Regards
- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
er... PodXT is digital too, innit?
- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Hink! You remembered! No, actually, I haven't had a MIDI I/O solution at home, but I will in less than a week when I get me new E-MU card. I'll try it out then & get back to you - thanks for asking!Hink wrote:bduffy, did the tone editor workout better for you then soud diver did?bduffy wrote:I find nothing - not even Thy Holy Guitar Rig - sounds as true and meaty as the POD. Since you already have a POD, I'd recommend getting a good tube pre-amp to go through; it really took my POD tone to a new level. Pretty hard to match with an amp sim. I find the amp sims don't provide as satisying saturation + sustain for metal, either.
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- KVRian
- 503 posts since 28 Mar, 2005 from Annapolis, MD
One thing that you can always do though to ensure a good take (the right amp settings, etc.) is send the XLR out of your DI to your DAW and record that (the dry signal--maybe after going through a preamp)-- and the direct to the amp. That way, you always have the dry signal which you can then reamp using a reamping device (X-Amp, Reamp, etc.), sending it to the amp for rerecording or if needed to the POD.cptgone wrote:If you're satisfied with the software's sound, go for the software. Definitely.
I have a Flextone II (=Pod amp) and I HATE to have to pick all amp settings before recording, instead of being able to REAMP my takes. I've thrown away very good takes cause of the amp settings I recorded them at, if the guitar sound is plain wrong for the track what can you do? (Big deal to me as I hardly ever get round to play some guitar)
If you don't like the soft amp sims' sound, use the Pod. Or get a Pod or whatever that does reamping (the upcoming Line6 Guitar Port or what's it called again looks nice for computer users)
You can then run the dry signal into any interesting effects and mix the two signals if you want.
- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 6 Dec, 2003 from Mission Control
Yep but there's no springy noise to drive me up the wall. To be honest the pod seems to be lacking a bit in the top end but I think I can live with that.cptgone wrote:er... PodXT is digital too, innit?
If not I'll drop back to analog pedals. I've still got my collection and I'm not selling until I'm sure I can do without them. I love my Rat.
Regards
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 6 Dec, 2003 from Mission Control
tomg wrote:Yep but there's no springy noise to drive me up the wall. To be honest the pod seems to be lacking a bit in the top end but I think I can live with that.cptgone wrote:er... PodXT is digital too, innit?
If not I'll drop back to analog pedals. I've still got my collection and I'm not selling until I'm sure I can do without them. I love my Rat.
Regards
- KVRAF
- 9064 posts since 1 Aug, 2003
In that case, it should be just a matter of time before PCs and plugins catch up. I'm looking forward to get some reviews of Guitar Rig 2 and Amplitube by people in the know.tomg wrote:Yep but there's no springy noise to drive me up the wall.cptgone wrote:er... PodXT is digital too, innit?
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 6 Dec, 2003 from Mission Control
I don't trust reviews very much, you never know whos working for who. A "guitar player" is not going to wait. They will use what works for them now whatever that is. If it gets better well.... maybe they will try it again maybe not. Some are perfectly happy with Amplitube and Guitar Rig as is...Some even like the Digitech distortionscptgone wrote:In that case, it should be just a matter of time before PCs and plugins catch up. I'm looking forward to get some reviews of Guitar Rig 2 and Amplitube by people in the know.tomg wrote:Yep but there's no springy noise to drive me up the wall.cptgone wrote:er... PodXT is digital too, innit?
For now it's a qulified XT for me.. Meaning that I have other options if I start not liking it for some reason I've yet to see.
Regards
- Rad Grandad
- 38041 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
why not split your signal from your guitar. Send one to the flextone for monitoring while playing and the secound to be recorded dry for re-amping. You can always loop to your flextone and record it in real time if you decide you like...or you could record the fextone too if you have the inputs...you'd probably need more then two tracks for the latter which rules out usb ...cptgone wrote:If you're satisfied with the software's sound, go for the software. Definitely.
I have a Flextone II (=Pod amp) and I HATE to have to pick all amp settings before recording, instead of being able to REAMP my takes. I've thrown away very good takes cause of the amp settings I recorded them at, if the guitar sound is plain wrong for the track what can you do? (Big deal to me as I hardly ever get round to play some guitar)
If you don't like the soft amp sims' sound, use the Pod. Or get a Pod or whatever that does reamping (the upcoming Line6 Guitar Port or what's it called again looks nice for computer users)
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