Storm Studio, Reason, FL Studio, and Orion Platinum

[vurt]

I don't know any professional composers that use any of the softstudios are their main sequencer-- .

can you define pro?

[zircon]

Yeah... please do.

[nuffink]

Also, how many of 'em do you know? Rounded to the nearest dozen or so.

[Kriminal]

nearest dozen? 12 give or take 8

[The Chase]

i could never take storm for more than a joke

[Lunatique]

Why are you guys taking things personally? What does it matter if others have different preferences? It's all personal opinion, and why should it matter to you if film score composers and symphonic music composers don't use softstudios as their main host sequencer? Does that negate the virtues of softstudios? No. Like I said, it's horses for courses. All these things are just tools--it's the talent of the music-maker that matters. I'm pretty sure if you pointed a gun to Bone's head and made him not use Orion Platinum, he could still turn out the same music using another software, and I'm pretty sure if you pointed a gun to James Newton Howard's head and made him use one of the softstudios as his host sequencer, he'd still hand you a great film score.

And as far as knowing pro composers go, there are quite a few that I talk to that composes scores for film, television, video games..etc. Some of them hang out at Northern Sound Source or V.I. Control, so if you want to confirm the fact that they don't use softstudios as their main host sequencer, then go to those forums and ask them. And even if you do find one that uses a softstudio as the main host sequencer, what does that matter? Does it really make any difference to you or me?

You simply have to accept the fact that for different styles of music, different setups and tools are preferred. Composers who work with large orchestral sample libraries that cost several thousand dollars and run them on multiple computers WILL have different needs compared to an electronic musician who only needs to run VST synths in a host that doesn't have scoring/notation features, and isn't designed to handle an entire orchestra's worth of streaming samples off of multiple hard drives and computers. These are just different segments of the market, and they are different tools aimed at different types of musicians. Why is that so hard to accept, and why must it turn into some kind of insult if I simply point it out?

I, at no point in this thread, said that these softstudios are bad or that I don't like them (except for Storm Studio, but then again, they're probably aiming at a different segment of the market). I simply said I don't feel like I'm missing out by not having used them in the past, and that some of them have cool features. The only somewhat negative thing I said was that Orion's presets didn't inspire me the way other VST's like Absynth, z3ta+ (and you can add to that list Tera, Legacy Cell, Rhino, Tassman..etc)did. And I did mention that for the price, the softstudios are great bangs for the buck and one can make very high quality music in them. SO just WHERE in this thread did I start pissing you guys off?

[whyterabbyt]

I think you'll find that your conflation of 'pro composer' with something which seems nearer to 'predominatly orchestral film music composer' might be the problem.

[vurt]

SO just WHERE in this thread did I start pissing you guys off?

i just asked for your definition of a word is all,how exactly is that being pissed off?
the point is you stated something i was merely asking for correlation of your meaning because my definition of "pro" would be someone who makes money from their music/sound,someone who is signed to a label maybe?
and i do know some whoo use orion plat as their main host is all.
not pissed in any way,like you said i dont care who uses what,as long as the user is happy its all good

[corman rapeblio]

the day they make reason open format will be the day I stop using it, you would have it as the whore of Babylon would you Lunatique? indeed.

[Lunatique]

I think you'll find that your conflation of 'pro composer' with something which seems nearer to 'predominatly orchestral film music composer' might be the problem.

Well, if that's the case, then that's simply my personal definition. I wouldn't have the balls to call myself a "professional composer" until I've acquired the ability to compose full orchestral works, along with many other styles of music--from jazz to ethnic, to rock to pop to reggae to electronic to blues to metal to industrial to goth..etc that commercial composers must be well-versed in in order to secure gigs. If you listen to any successful and working commercial composer's demo reel, it usually displays the ability to compose in any style or any level of sophistication. I'm not close to being that good yet, that's why I wouldn't have the balls to call myself a professional composer.

[Stupid American Pig]

Use what works best for you. I personally record too much live audio to use a softstudio for my main sequencer. For me Sonar does the job quite nicely. I still find softsudios handy for creating loops and riffs to build on tho. Luckily I can insert most of these softstudios into Sonar and finish them there. BONES is someone who mainly uses softsynths to make his music, and ORION seems to be doing the job for him. People on here are way too different to come up with a conclusion for which host is "best" because there is no best. Where you may find Orion average and not inspiring, Bones does.

I personally find MOST VA synths boring but that doesnt mean that they are. These days I prefer to make my music on guitar and piano. 5 years ago I was completely different- I LOVED the synthesizer, and hated guitar. I liked using sampled loops and programming an entire song. Now I enjoy the challenge of using little to no programming or loops(unless I make them myself) and playing and writing every part for every instrument. This means I now take ~ 6 months to finish a song to my liking where it previously took a few days to a week. Anyway, I guess my point is, variety is good, and there is no figuring out the "best" of anything, just use what works.

[ceenda]

Personally, I think people are way too worried about what "other people are using".

The problem with different methodologies, different systems, different approaches, etc. is that people inevitably conclude that there is one particular approach that is 'correct'.

I've heard enough amazing songs from users of FL Studio, Orion, Overture, Renoise, the-guy-that-busks-with-the-didgeriidoo-outside-the-trainstation etc. to make me realise that what works for some doesn't work for others.

(I've also noticed a correlation between great music and people who rarely make an appearance on internet forums, but I'm moving into dangerous territory there...)

[Stupid American Pig]

(I've also noticed a correlation between great music and people who rarely make an appearance on internet forums, but I'm moving into dangerous territory there...)

[jens]

(I've also noticed a correlation between great music and people who rarely make an appearance on internet forums, but I'm moving into dangerous territory there...)

indeed you are!

[waveriderarts]

I've always been curious about the softstudios like Reason, Orion, FL, Storm Studio..etc,

All those are fine tools, each of them have areas that shine... they are not all in one, DAW, but nice music creation tools.