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speccyteccy wrote:First thing I wanted to do was to use the computer keyboard as a midi keyboard, so I searched (or at least thought I did) the help by typing "qwerty" and hitting enter. Took me to a long page that I had to read through but found no mention of the word "qwerty" - turns out the help doesn't have a search function (!!!), and it had just taken me to a page that contained the nearest thing - "quantize"!

Finally figured that I need to hit F12 to use the computer keyboard as midi – however, it loses focus as soon as I touch something else, like the mixer.
I forgot that was even there.
In the piano roll, I can't seem to paint notes horizontally.
Hold down CTRL while you paint.
No horizontal mouse scroll in the piano roll.
Huh? Do you use a hotkey combo or something in FL?
No wave editor?
You mean "No lame, useless wave editor". I have Cool Edit 2000 in mine and I think Krim has SoundForge. Steven West is a bit pretentious so he probably has WaveLab, right there in his ORION Playlist.
Graphical glitches on title bar of piano roll and in main toolbar – stuff being drawn in the wrong place, like the “bar numbers”.
never noticed none of those but I do have a more serious than avaerage display card.
Is it possible to see piano roll and instrument at the same time? It seems you can only toggle between the two views. If not, that’s a big issue.
Really? I don't think its ever come up.
Only four sub groups in the mixer?
Que? That's way more than anyone should need. I rarely use more than one and never more than two. I've noticed this in CM a bit. People seem to find the most difficult way to do everything. I really don't get it.
Are there any spline or lfo drawing tools in event editor?
LFO tool, no splines.
Can Orion do time stretching?
No, because Rich is not happy with the quality of any of the available technology that he could license to do it.
Can’t find anything like FL’s browser
Thank God. I never used it, it took up too much space.
Also had a quick look at the fx and synths – there seems to be a good selection of fx, but can’t say I’m impressed by the synths
That is probably because you don't get even a fraction of the sound-sets that ship with them.
– none of them appear to have anything other than basic ADSR envelopes, which is a big downer.
and none of FL's instruments seem to have wave-sequencing or anythign approaching a decent sounding resonant filter. What's your point? I hate multi-point envelopes - too much krap to wade through when you almost never need them.
In all fairness, as Orion 6 has just been released, I should be comparing it with FL6 which is just about to be released
That's strange, Fruity has been around a lot longer than ORION, you'd think they would be at version 7 or 8 by now.
although it’s probably a good thing (from Orion’s perspective) that I can’t do that – FL6 looks like a huge update.
... that won't address any of its core weaknesses, I'm sure.
arke wrote:Nice review speccyteccy. I'm sure many people have found it informative. Only problem for you is that you are now considered an idiot by Bones because you don't like closing synths. But, let's hope he forgets. :)
I always though speccyteccy was an idiot, look at the name he chose.
jens wrote:
Kriminal wrote:
speccyteccy wrote:Is it possible to see piano roll and instrument at the same time? It seems you can only toggle between the two views. If not, that’s a big issue.
No, why would you want to?
er... maybe e.g. because on basslines there's often some kind of trade-off/interdependence between the note-lenghts and the filter-/gain-envelopes needed/recommended/going on... :shrug:
Errr... how on Earth would that help? You can't see the envelope superimposed over the piano roll at the approriate scale, can you? You are absolutely going to have to use your ears in that situation, like every other that I can think of. Again, you need to free yourself from the process and concentrate on the results. Its a great mantra, try it.
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look at that! Two biggies sandwiched by a coupla small-fry. Brilliant!
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Aww :(

I just looked in the Latest Posts section and saw a BONES post in "Storm Studio, Reason, FL Studio, and Orion Platinum", and I was excited! This will be another huge post by BONES that I can write a huge reply to. Those are fun!

So I scroll down all the way, and I see this short post. And I cry. And I cry even more. It is a 2 sentence post, and its not even bashing on Reason or FL Studio! Not even praising Orion! My whole day has been ruined.

:hihi:

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..Wow. And he makes a surprise sandwich post. AND I CANT REPLY TO IT!!! ITS NOTTHING THAT I COULD REPLY TO!! :( :( :(

BONES, You have ruined my day even further. :(

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As much as I think that BONE's arguments are as stupid as his glasses, he made a point, a sequencer doesn't really need to come with an audio editor.
Doesn't much hurt when you have one, though, but I always advise users to buy a bigger one.

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...or you can download Audacity which can do almost everything Sound Forge et al can at no cost. Yay to open source :)

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tony tony chopper wrote:As much as I think that BONE's arguments are as stupid as his glasses, he made a point, a sequencer doesn't really need to come with an audio editor.
Doesn't much hurt when you have one, though, but I always advise users to buy a bigger one.
You just wished they paid you enough that you could have some of those glasses. They no wcome with even cooler black rims. It may be time for a slight change of image [although I did just buy 3 pairs of "fakely"s at temple St markets on the weekend].
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Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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tony tony chopper wrote:As much as I think that BONE's arguments are as stupid as his glasses, he made a point, a sequencer doesn't really need to come with an audio editor.
Doesn't much hurt when you have one, though, but I always advise users to buy a bigger one.
I use SF, and it plug right into Orion. If i have a sample in an audio track that i want to edit, i just click on the ample and it will open in SF, the new version is saved and i dont have to close Orion and open it at all, so its the same as haveing a built in editor, except you get to choose a decent one.

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arke wrote:...or you can download Audacity which can do almost everything Sound Forge et al can at no cost. Yay to open source :)
The only problem I had with use SF in ORION was that, unlike CE2k, it purges its undo when you save so if you don't get it right the first time, it can bite you in the arse. Do you know how Audacity does in that area?
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Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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BONES wrote:
tony tony chopper wrote:As much as I think that BONE's arguments are as stupid as his glasses, he made a point, a sequencer doesn't really need to come with an audio editor.
Doesn't much hurt when you have one, though, but I always advise users to buy a bigger one.
You just wished they paid you enough that you could have some of those glasses. They no wcome with even cooler black rims. It may be time for a slight change of image [although I did just buy 3 pairs of "fakely"s at temple St markets on the weekend].
a mate brought me back some fakelys from thailand, but i sat on them :roll:

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Will you read that post! I have been in China waaaaayyyyy too long this trip.
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BONES wrote:
arke wrote:...or you can download Audacity which can do almost everything Sound Forge et al can at no cost. Yay to open source :)
The only problem I had with use SF in ORION was that, unlike CE2k, it purges its undo when you save so if you don't get it right the first time, it can bite you in the arse. Do you know how Audacity does in that area?
Get it right first time then numbnuts!

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Kriminal wrote:a mate brought me back some fakelys from thailand, but i sat on them :roll:
Everybody does that! Sometimes I feel like a fakely mule for several of my associates. [But where are you gonna find one in Shanghai?] I have to bring back at least two pairs every trip for some idiot who lost his or sat on them.
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Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

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You just wished they paid you enough that you could have some of those glasses
you mean you bought those things?

I think this guy is giving them for free
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that actually is Bones ;)

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