Studio....to go Linux OS sequencer

[fake]

I think most of you lot have got it wrong and by the sound of most.....maybe have never even tried it.

Linux should not IMHO, at the moment, be used to replace a windows box. The development of music on linux is very new in comparison to windows and anybody who does music for a living would be mad just to use linux. It will at some stage in the near future be a very capable competitor, especially as 64bit is just around the corner for linux, and free. No memory restrictions like windows and it also runs in "native mode" with true multitasking.
That is where it become a valuable os. It is now possible for anyone anywhere with a modest pc to run a linux daw with very low latency and make quality music for free. Music can now be made without any of the bogus windows or software restrictions or bloat.

Work out how much your software has allready cost you and what return you have got from it. Has it benefited you or the developers?

OK, so they may not be many apps there yet but what there is makes it very capable. Rosegarden is an excellent seq and Ardour is....

Seems funny to me also that a Linux app "Hexter" has now been ported to windows....


Plus it's even better now you can use vst's.

Try DeMuDi, and have a look at my linux VST page, some sample tracks there too!

fake

[Hink]

dont know if it's been mentioned, haven't read the whole thread. But some here will know of Otari, leader in 2"tape machines, designers of the Radar system and now this the DR-100

http://www.otari.com/product/audio/dr_100/index.html


note what it's operating system is...

Guess what the Receptor's operating system is...

hmmmm...that's interesting now isn't it? Food for thoght, thanx...tax time comes around in a couple months...I was going to buy some of the things that I bought when I hit that ticket when my taxes came in, Receptor is drawing my attention more and more now...

[oldevil]

pissing contest...

[Lunch Money]

www.demudi.org

have fun with your new OS. Let us hear what you come up with

I've half a mind to try an install just to prove you wrong, but if I toast my system, I have nobody to blame but myself.

I didn't see anything on that homepage which would lead me to believe that I'll be running any sort of reasonable audio sequencing app. It's mostly hacked-together bits of code that are still pretty much 'beta' software, and I couldn't even figure out which part of it was the sequencer.

So, nice try, but no sale. I got a headache just trying to figure out what they were distributing, never mind going through the hassle of installing.

Greg

[Z3R0T0N1N]

i was halfway through writing a long reply regarding how wrong that ass-essment (:P ) is.
i changed my mind.
your post shows just how interested you are in learning anything about this.

nothing wrong with that, don't take this the wrong way.
sometimes we just don't want to, and it is totally fine.

cheers.

ps:
keep it in mind if you ever decide you want to try something new. it is easy enough for a know-nothing console-phobe like me, so pretty much any monkey could use it. They take great care to make sure it is stable, up to date, and fully configured and optimized for audio production, and several people use it professionally.

and i urge others to check out the site; Please do, because with all do respect to LM, it is not as he described at all. It is a very professional group of people, and the project was EU funded for the first couple of years. The site is clear, and well designed, and will give you an idea of what is possible with this installation.

'spect.
g.

[kara]

i supose that it could be possible to use linux for audio production. but in how far is it made for musicians ? i mean my main goal isn't learning linux, it is making music ...

[Lunch Money]

The link's right there for anyone to try.

I can understand how you'd take what I wrote the wrong way, Z3R0-- I didn't have a lot of time (I was between classes) to be all political about it, so I just cut to the chase. As a result, no offence taken by your response.

However, I really AM interested in trying new things, just not at the expense of my system. Linux or not, I refuse to try installing this on my main box until all of my projects and documents are backed-up, something which is long overdue anyhow.

But, the site really IS as I described. It's fairly threadbare to begin with, and you have to dig for information. It did not clearly describe what sort of DAW you are installing, and I couldn't even find an external link to the sequencer being used. That's not MY fault, so while the site may indeed contain what you say it contains (namely, a hassle-free Linux install with robust sequencing that will automatically work on my system), there isn't a lot of description to go by. A few screenshots, a few plain-language descriptions, a more obvious list of apps...(I saw that it contains a synth, but not the synth *I* want to use, and it didn't say in what audio-recording context it could be used) ANYTHING, really....

The site is, indeed "professional", but that's part of the problem. I don't want a white-paper on audio sequencing for Linux, I want end-user marketing that quickly identifies how the needs of a digital musician would be met.

Can it run plug-ins like BFD? I don't know. Can it use my Wusikstation? I don't know that, either. Are the audio editing functions fully-featured so that I draw automation curves or whatnot? I really don't know! For all I know, this is just a portal that will use WINE or whatnot in order to run my existing software. But it's not made clear.

Anyone can quickly click that link and see if all those questions (or their own) are easily answered. If they are, then great... but if they're not, I'm at least one other person in the same boat.

Greg

[Z3R0T0N1N]

i supose that it could be possible to use linux for audio production. but in how far is it made for musicians ? i mean my main goal isn't learning linux, it is making music ...

that's the point of Demudi, Rehmudi ( the redhat version of the Agnula project, of which demudi is a part), Planet CCRMA, and one other that I can't remember the name of.
These are projects dedicated to the development of Linux as a user friendly and professionally viable computer music platform.

[Z3R0T0N1N]

LM:
'kay
understood.

[Lunch Money]

I was kind of hoping that you could cut through my ignorance by linking to the sequencer and related technologies (ie. plug-ins) that it uses. But if that's too much work, I'll try looking at their website again. <chuckle>

Greg

[Z3R0T0N1N]

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1170.html

here's one

[Z3R0T0N1N]

http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1448.html
sorry.. forgot this one too.

[Z3R0T0N1N]

hey, Greg:

sometimes i get a bit on my high horse so to speak, and forget about some of the details; there is one thing that you should check out before you try it out if you decide to: that is to make sure that your soundcard has a compatible ALSA driver available. There are lists both on the alsa home page, and on some of the linux music pages. That is the only place that i have had issues, really.
For integrated sound cards, there may be a boot time instruction that you have to type in, but there are lots and lots of people to help with that.
The agnula user list is helpful.

[jtxx000]

(double post)

[jtxx000]

I'd love to be able to use Linux as my OS for my DAW. It's much better suited for the task than windows, and IMO is much nicer to work with. If you want a bare-bones cut-down system, just install a cut-down system. No wading through windows system configuration turning off all the system processes. I also like the flexibility. In windows, you have to conform to the operating system. If you don't like the way it looks or acts, then too bad. In Linux, everything's customizable. Don't like the way it looks? Change it. Don't like the way it works? Change it. The work flow is much better too (again, just my opinion). Simple features like the ability to alt click drag windows to move them instead of having to click the small title bar and multiple workspaces make for a much pleasurable experience. Also, a lot of the Linux myths aren't true anymore. To those who say Linux is ugly check this site out. To those who say it's hard to use check out Ubuntu.

Unfortunately, Tracktion isn't available for Linux yet... so it's still Windows for me. (at least for music )