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Kriminal wrote:
carlos wrote:......and I'm sorry krim for what I did to your cat!!
i dont have a cat, i hate cats.

I can feel your anger, your hate of cats stems back to a young krim who must have fell victim to sustained abuse at the paws of a big tom! Anybody else want to regress!

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gotta love the fake poo
That was fake poo?


I worry about myself sometimes....I thought that was a chocolate covered pretzel. In fact it made me feel a bit peckish. Hmmm..... :?

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I agree guys. This place goes in cycles...

for myself I have to learn to get up and walk away fron the screen sometimes! 10 hours @ KvR is UNHEALTHY for anyone :)

Just start a thread about toys or cakes or stupid jokes (or poo) and it all gets back to normal again!!!

Dave

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I don't have anything against a bit of the good old flaming every now and then, I also love some dudes for their weird humour, etc...
But I just hate it how some regulars sometimes treat newbies and I also hate it to see a thread supposed to be informational drown in endless personal attacks.
The latter has been getting worse lately.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.

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Every community goes through periods of ups and downs. For what it's worth, KvR has always seemed to be a pretty stable and positive environment. There are communities out there with HUGE problems with flame wars and egos and so forth, and in comparison KvR is quite nice.

Not to minimize the issue, but just to say that I think we still have a very good thing here. It can be better of course. :hihi:

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I keep coming back here because at the end of the day it's one of the only places on the web where people can really feel part of a lively community of friends - and sometimes that means warts and all :) I think most of the time though people here are mature and differences are resolved amicably but because it's alive you will always get ups and downs - sometimes one needs to learn how to roll with it. Just check out how this 50 page thread has gone to see how even a controversial issue can be discussed in HPC - it is entirely possibly to have civilised discussions despite the heat here on KVR and it shows that even when it gets sour at times there's no reason why things can't be chilled again.

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

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Sascha Franck wrote:I don't have anything against a bit of the good old flaming every now and then, I also love some dudes for their weird humour, etc...
But I just hate it how some regulars sometimes treat newbies and I also hate it to see a thread supposed to be informational drown in endless personal attacks.
The latter has been getting worse lately.
well said. couldn't agree more.

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Sascha Franck wrote:I don't have anything against a bit of the good old flaming every now and then, I also love some dudes for their weird humour, etc...
But I just hate it how some regulars sometimes treat newbies and I also hate it to see a thread supposed to be informational drown in endless personal attacks.
The latter has been getting worse lately.
Sure, I try 'n help out if it's a legitmate request for knowledge, but when some newbie comes along demanding to know which is the best 'synth' I can't help myself...

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Sascha Franck wrote:But I just hate it how some regulars sometimes treat newbies and I also hate it to see a thread supposed to be informational drown in endless personal attacks.
The latter has been getting worse lately.
Yeah. The best we can do is just not participate in that garbage. :shrug:

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snooky wrote:
Sascha Franck wrote:I don't have anything against a bit of the good old flaming every now and then, I also love some dudes for their weird humour, etc...
But I just hate it how some regulars sometimes treat newbies and I also hate it to see a thread supposed to be informational drown in endless personal attacks.
The latter has been getting worse lately.
Sure, I try 'n help out if it's a legitmate request for knowledge, but when some newbie comes along demanding to know which is the best 'synth' I can't help myself...
yeah but those threads are also a means for bragging and boasting as well. I gotta admit the idea of someone actually be able to decide what is the "best" is laughable at best (pun intended). However even in those pissing matches sometimes a little ray of insight comes through.

When I was in my early and mid 20's after getting out of the service I worked for a moving company owned by two brothers. They were the thugs of their town in the 50's. One 'Dave' is by far the stupidest boss I ever had. He didn't even make it past middle school...yet all these years I have carried with me some wisdom from him. He once said "you can learn something from everyone, no matter how smart they are or are not" (not verbatim)...well him making the statement itself was proof enough for me...often when reading newbie threads I keep that in my mind.

Yeah I will admit that when I see such a thread and my first thought is "not another" :roll: ...but if you're willing to keep your eyes wide open anyone can benefit from them.

:)
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.

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mhm...perhaps.

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Hink wrote:
snooky wrote:
Sascha Franck wrote:I don't have anything against a bit of the good old flaming every now and then, I also love some dudes for their weird humour, etc...
But I just hate it how some regulars sometimes treat newbies and I also hate it to see a thread supposed to be informational drown in endless personal attacks.
The latter has been getting worse lately.
Sure, I try 'n help out if it's a legitmate request for knowledge, but when some newbie comes along demanding to know which is the best 'synth' I can't help myself...
yeah but those threads are also a means for bragging and boasting as well. I gotta admit the idea of someone actually be able to decide what is the "best" is laughable at best (pun intended). However even in those pissing matches sometimes a little ray of insight comes through.

When I was in my early and mid 20's after getting out of the service I worked for a moving company owned by two brothers. They were the thugs of their town in the 50's. One 'Dave' is by far the stupidest boss I ever had. He didn't even make it past middle school...yet all these years I have carried with me some wisdom from him. He once said "you can learn something from everyone, no matter how smart they are or are not" (not verbatim)...well him making the statement itself was proof enough for me...often when reading newbie threads I keep that in my mind.

Yeah I will admit that when I see such a thread and my first thought is "not another" :roll: ...but if you're willing to keep your eyes wide open anyone can benefit from them.

:)
Well said.

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You know, perhaps we should just compile a series of 'best of' lists based on.....well, some criteria or another.

That way, when someone comes along asking what the best free synth for Trance is, we can just give'em a link and have done. No annoyance, no hazing.

But then, what would become of all of the traffic here?

For my part, I try to be nice to newbies, as I still consider myself to be one, when it comes to synth programming at least.

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wax on, wax off...
8)

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herodotus wrote:You know, perhaps we should just compile a series of 'best of' lists based on.....well, some criteria or another.

That way, when someone comes along asking what the best free synth for Trance is, we can just give'em a link and have done. No annoyance, no hazing.

But then, what would become of all of the traffic here?

For my part, I try to be nice to newbies, as I still consider myself to be one, when it comes to synth programming at least.
You've earned a great deal of respect from me already. :D

I think that'd be a fantastic idea. Compile a list of best VST's for certain uses (based on popular opinion, of course), then divide the list by freeware and payware.

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