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Johnny Cherry · Post by **Johnny Cherry** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:55 pm

Also any chance you could upload the impulses you have of the sp? I would really appreciate that man.

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:00 pm

Johnny Cherry wrote:Also any chance you could upload the impulses you have of the sp? I would really appreciate that man.

I second that!

Johnny Cherry · Post by **Johnny Cherry** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:07 pm

Also as there seems to be a lot of people who dig the sp sound, theres a producer called Jel on the label Anticon, he does all his tracks on an sp. He has 2 instrumental albums out in fact the scond one is a sort of love letter to he's sampler, all the tracks are named after fuctions and parts of the sp1200

. The albums are called greenball and 10 Seconds (note. the sp had 10 seconds of sample time) He's done a bunch of other stuff worth checking as well, one of the best underground hip hop producers.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:09 pm

greenball?

Johnny Cherry · Post by **Johnny Cherry** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:14 pm

snooky wrote:greenball?

Yes that is the name of one of the guys albums infact there's a greenball 2 as well.

Stupid American Pig · Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:51 am

Also, I guess Im the only one that noticed that the screenshot said "virtual analog drums", which is kinda incorrect.

No name · Post by **No name** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:58 am

Well,we've both already put a lot of work into this. 2 months of creating drum sounds, perfecting the sequencer and gui, and then trying to get the closest sound possible to the real thing. Good luck getting a closer sound than the impulse of the machine itself. Anyways, I don't know whether or not i'll be able to release the impulses as I have to talk to the guy who made them for us in the first place.

I mean, it is free and we aren't veteran programmers. I guess you could always just always wait and see if a big company decides to do it. We both work and all so we devote as much time as we can to this. We told you all in the first page not to expect the exact thing, especially free. As for the virtual analog drums, i'll say it clearly...

It is a virtual drum sample capable of loading in drum sounds (wav), and it may have the sequencer (we have a few issues that need to be worked out to get it to work correctly). It loads wav samples and gives you a few options to tweak. A filter (which of course will not be programmed to be the exact filter on the sp1200 so once again don't expect it to sound exactly like it), but it will be the same type (LP butterworth). We're working out the fine details as to what should be in it or not. Sorry to disappoint...

Bassballjg · Post by **Bassballjg** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:10 am

No Name, I am looking forward to hearing this. I may or may not like it, and that is my or anyone's prerogative. But you should be appriciated for your effort and initiative, because that is the least you deserve. Thank you, sir.

declassified · Post by **declassified** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:16 am

No name wrote:Anyways, I don't know whether or not i'll be able to release the impulses as I have to talk to the guy who made them for us in the first place.

don't worry about that, one could always make impulse responses of this plugin for private purpose. won't be illegal if we don't redistribute them, would it?

No name · Post by **No name** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:05 am

well, if it is then I would be to blame for distributing them. I'll have to check with him.

politcat · Post by **politcat** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:13 pm

emulation...someone's always gonna be disappointed.

will it inspire, bring on the muse, that's what will really matter!

looking fwd to this thing. how soon?

reprznt · Post by **reprznt** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:13 pm

i agree.... if this is a good creative tool... that is really what matters most. more so than being an exact emulation of the SP1200, which given the free price is not realistic. Instead, I applaud your efforts at developing this vst and look forward to its release. now on a seperate note, some commercial vst developer should take note of the demand for a virtual "sp1200 or mpc60". I would shell out a good 100-150$ if someone could do this at a commercial quality level. but again, i am really looking forward to this release. make sure and list a paypal/donation link...

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:20 pm

You will get possibility to make it sound like 12bit.

good. That would make that rompler sound like none of the others. I dream about that for years since i've sold my akai s-20 : something sounding real lofi 12bit (not with another vst bitcrusher thingie in the chain, but a particular grainy 12 bit raw sound you can't change)

tek_ra wrote:
Try to get someone to make an impulse of the exact 12 bit signal degradation from a real SP-1200 or it will not sound like it at all. I had a real one years ago and can tell you that I have not even come close to the crispy, trashy (but great)lo-fi sound of that unit, using just about any and every bitcrusher/reducer/downsampling plugin or process you can think of.

If you can figure a way to put an overall impulse of the real deal that effects the output of your plug with the same grit of an actual SP1200 you will have something ALOT of people will buy.

Best of luck,
- C.J.

This is why I have been hunting down someone with one. With no luck though.

Well, it could be a possibility to open a forum dedicated to that request on a IR site (like Noisevault.com)? I know some pepople has made amp and compressor impulses...

reprznt · Post by **reprznt** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:27 pm

i agree about the raw sound that is needed... i am really sick of trying vst bit crushers that do not sound like my old MPC60/S950.... it would be so nice to have a dedicated vst where i would not need to add the insert bitcrusher effect.... and by the way.. the sound demo sounded good enough for my taste. i eagerly await this plugin. thanks again

politcat · Post by **politcat** » Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:39 pm

No name wrote:Here is a sound comparison (you have to get the files from yousend it). The first will be of a loop ran through the original, the second will be of the emulation.

i'm assuming all things being equal when recording these.

other than the "noticable loss of sound in the high end" the important difference i hear between these is that the original has a lot more punch.

i put the emulation in my sequencer and added a stereo compressor and except for some tonal difference it was very close. the tonal difference is mainly in the snare and hat. i had to add spectralive to the emulation to "unmuffle" it.

emulation with comp and spectralive:
http://s39.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0Z4C ... VL60FIER3E
(will be there for 7 days)

if you can emulate that punch and fix the loss of highs you will have it.

(the original was mono. it'd be better for both waves to be stereo for comparison)

Introducing... (sp1200 emulation)