Guitar amp tremolo wanted

[guitama]

Is there a free or cheap valve amp style tremolo sim in vst? There are a dozen synth type tremolo units but I would like one with a real wobble in the waveform.

[GaryG]

one of the free amp sims has a pretty cool trem but i can't think for the life of me which one...

the NGC trem+ (i think) has a nifty reset thing so you can get weird waveforms modulating your trem though not exactly vintage or valve like...

what do you mean by wobble anyway? inaccuracies in the waveform or just a nice steady waveform that has that special something?

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[SWTrex]

one of the free amp sims has a pretty cool trem but i can't think for the life of me which one... .g

If I remember right, in the Guitar Suite bundle, the "Rednef Twin" amp sim has tremelo control.

SWTrex

[wsaidah]

bj tremolo

[guitama]

Thanks but I got all those. They provide the same thing every time. By wobble I was think of variations on the waveform, giving an analog effect. I am using EnergyXT but I can't see even the right combination of plugs.

[Hink]

can I ask why, no offense but imho (and I had a couple amps with tremolo) it is beyond cheese...blue cheese It's like the electro-harmonix craze..I don't get it..we made fun of kids who used EH... Just because they did it in the 60's and 70's doesn't make it great....in fact what was cheesy then and is cheesy now.

"Hey I got a cool amp with tremolo!"....

"what does that do?" ...

"it turns the amp on and off, it's an effect for an eletric guitar"...

"doesn't the switch do that?" ....

"yes but this does it automatically and at different speeds....see...ee...ee...ee...ee...ee"...

"oh that's cool now you can play Crimson and Clover "...

you know I wonder if someone said that "what gave Marshalls their sound was pissing on em"...how far tube sales would shoot up...

[Hink]

actually it's basically the guitar version of the cher effect in the phsycadelic age...

[rogerperrin]

Hink, Eric Clapton used tremolo on an album a few years ago - "My Father's Eyes," - for one from the album. It was great, I loved it, and it made lots of money. Used with taste, and in the proper place, it can be used to good effect.

That being said, however, I do agree with you about "Crimson and Clover" being beyond cheese - blue cheese, even. Nothing could have rescued that song, IMHO, certainly not tremolo. OMG, I wish yu hadn't mentioned that song. That is one creepy flashback. Bad dog, bad dog for making that one.

[Hovmod]

The luxonix LFX1310 has a pretty useful tremolo effect, and about seven million other things to play with...

[operandx]

can I ask why, no offense but imho (and I had a couple amps with tremolo) it is beyond cheese...blue cheese

One man's blue cheese is another man's Stilton

[Hink]

Hink, Eric Clapton used tremolo on an album a few years ago - "My Father's Eyes," - for one from the album. It was great, I loved it, and it made lots of money. Used with taste, and in the proper place, it can be used to good effect.

That being said, however, I do agree with you about "Crimson and Clover" being beyond cheese - blue cheese, even. Nothing could have rescued that song, IMHO, certainly not tremolo. OMG, I wish yu hadn't mentioned that song. That is one creepy flashback. Bad dog, bad dog for making that one.

oh I'm sure you can find many songs that used it well...but face it, it's a one time effect. Certainly not like chorus, or reverb that is part of an artists sound...so why did the put it on every cheap amp (I can see a vst tbh as it can be one time use).

Remember Maestro? Now there were some good effects, I forget the amp...three initials in the name...it had that great Maestro Phase Shifter in it...really I was just being sacastic, left over from the old days when some punk would tell me Marshall sucked because then they had no reverb...

[Hink]

The luxonix LFX1310 has a pretty useful tremolo effect, and about seven million other things to play with...

does it still suck down the cpu? that is a nice pluggin, but I never re-installed it because AA1.5 (with vst support) wouldn't see it, I had to use a wrapper...but now that I have sonar...hmmm...btw two of the avox suite doesn't like AA either...I'm trnsitioning from AA to Sonar 5 quickly...

[robenestobenz]

I think that when used well tremolo can be a good effect. Often evokes the cinematic dinge of a band playing in a smoky bar to me.

[Funkybot]

oh I'm sure you can find many songs that used it well...but face it, it's a one time effect. Certainly not like chorus, or reverb that is part of an artists sound...so why did the put it on every cheap amp (I can see a vst tbh as it can be one time use).all sucked because then they had no reverb...

Ok I wasn't going to post a response to your initial point about it being cheesey but c'mon, chorus? Chorus is the number one most surefire way for a guitar player to sound dated! Whooo the 80's! Chorus sucks, tremolo, much cooler. For example:

Buffalo Springfield - For What It's Worth
The Smiths - How Soon Is Now
Portishead - Mysterons
Radiohead - Planet Telex, Bones
The New Pornographers - Three or Four

Tremolo doesn't cover your amp tone with cheese, it just plays with the volume in cool ways. And I haven't even mentioned how cool it sounds on electric piano's and the like. Chorus isn't bad on the occasional vocals (preferably background vocals) and synths, but it's just a terrible sound on a guitar. So I say, give me a Marshall Vibratrem over a chorus on my guitar any day.

You can also use trem a lot, you just have to be tasteful. A little wobble here, a full on stutter there, etc. Some guitar players never turn their damn chorus pedals off.

[Hink]

oh I'm sure you can find many songs that used it well...but face it, it's a one time effect. Certainly not like chorus, or reverb that is part of an artists sound...so why did the put it on every cheap amp (I can see a vst tbh as it can be one time use).all sucked because then they had no reverb...

You can also use trem a lot, you just have to be tasteful. A little wobble here, a full on stutter there, etc. Some guitar players never turn their damn chorus pedals off.

fwiw I never use chorus on electric guitars, sometimes on acoustic...I mostly only use a little delay and reverb (and od of course)...you're right too many people use it...please read where I said I was being sarcastic...however in the early 70's every cheap amp had tremolo, yet most people I know used it just for fooling around and grew tired of it quickly...you don't suppose that's why it's not on as many amps made today? Except for vintage sims of course.

But like I say...who's deciding what is cool vintage and what isn't? Somehow Ampeg has become completely bass and no one thinks about the guitar amps. Back in the 70's I would take a V4, V2 or Vt22 over any guitar amp Peavey has ever made (even to this day). Electro Harmonix is cool today for some unknown reason, but it use to be the toy of the industry and yet I bet many people here never heard of Maestro (and that was a phase shifter I spoke of, not chorus).

btw, use tremolo a lot?...please...today...If I want a breathing sound like you suggest a compressor blows it away. Stutter effect? I wired one guitar to get that sound if I want it ala Randy Rhodes. (not a Les Paul though)..but I think any effect overused is cheesy, and I do not use much modulation fx ever, the only song on my page with any is Reality. I also would never own a space chorus again..I like a little signal with my hiss

Yah gotta forgive me if I think some of this "vintage" stuff is less then accurate and a little silly (really it's more about marketing). Want a screaming amp that will make you rethink everything, get a Sears Silvertone head from the 60's...