10-Band PLParEQ is Here!

[bmanic]

Thank you should be happy, because all you have to do is use any old EQ (no need to be linear phase), "reverse" the resulting wav file, and then apply the filter again. It's not conveniently real-time like PLParEQ, but the sound quality should be even better.

Provided that the original EQs filtering algo was as transparent as possible, no? Thanks for the idea! I have to try that out. Should be quite cool when using HarmoniEQ.

@original flipper, well, this thread has sure been a good way to boost that post count!

- bManic

[nuffink]

Nuff, did you try the eq?

I have. Not the 10 band, but the others.

[HanafiH]

dbmcclain, if your EQ should give a symmetrical reponse (forward and backward IIR filtering) then I do not know why with a single dirac spike I do not get a symmetrical response as a result.

Moreover (and do not get me wrong - that's my opinion only), forward&backward IIR filtering using window overlap is not the best solution. Building a true linear-phase kernel (by evaluating IIR filter itself) and then using convolution to apply it to the sound should theoretically be more precise - but of course, you won't get any 'interesting' effects of windowed forward&backward IIR filtering.

Hi Aleksey,

I did a primitive spike test myself, and I didn't get a symmetrical looking response unless I enabled the green Phase Linear button at the right hand side of the filter settings bar. I didn't test the symmetry, but it 'looked right' to me.

If you mean something else, sorry for butting in.

[fritzman]

Hey Nuff,

Hey Fritz,

Does it ever occur to you that people may want something other than your subjective view?

Yes. How do you come to the conclusion that it couldn't be so?

I mean, with all due respect, I don't know you. I know from reading your posts that you have an unshakable belief in your own judgement. Which is fine, except most people that I've met who are quite that dogmatic have turned out to be utterly, hilariously clueless.
I'm sure that isn't the case with you, but given the choice between your completely unknown ears and some solid, objective figures. I'll take the numbers.

Best wishes

nuff

p.s. don't take this personally. The same applies to all the other self appointed golden eared brigade.

I don't take this personally. especially that you are using nice language here. It's totally alright for me that you don't take a cent for my word. But this forum isn't made for this anyway. I don't know most people here personally (face to face I mean) so why should I take anybodies words for something? You decide. So do I.

I wonder why you tell me that most "dogmatic" people you met are clueless and then you tell me that you're SURE that this isn't the case with me!? What? Would you please explain that? That doesn't make any sense to me.

Why do you call me self appointed golden eared?

I don't care what anybody likes or dislikes. If it sounds good to me: Then it sounds good to me. Everything else is OK for teenies.
I don't want to convince you of my opinions. All I do is to express my thoughts and feelings about this EQ here and I encourage other people to check it out for themselves. To HEAR it! -IF- the numbers are more important to you than what you hear, well then I don't know what to say.


Best wishes, FRitz

[nuffink]

IF- the numbers are more important to you than what you hear, well then I don't know what to say.

Hey Fritz,

You misunderstand. I trust MY ears implicitly. It's yours I don't. I have absolutely no interest in your (or anybody else's) opinion of anything to do with making a noise with a computer.
I do, however, have an interest in the technical aspects of how this thing measures.

Best wishes

nuff

[DuX]

"An option for a higher resolution display (ie: +/- 6 dB, rather than 20). I doubt many mastering engineers are forced to EQ that drastically!"

I wholeheartedly second that! +-24 db is much too much. +-6db resolution display would be wonderful.

Cheers!

[Aleksey Vaneev]

HanafiH, probably I have not enabled that linear-phase switch. Sorry. Then it might be working OK, but my other comments are not related to EQ's performance itself.

[fritzman]

IF- the numbers are more important to you than what you hear, well then I don't know what to say.

Hey Fritz,

You misunderstand. I trust MY ears implicitly. It's yours I don't. I have absolutely no interest in your (or anybody else's) opinion of anything to do with making a noise with a computer.
I do, however, have an interest in the technical aspects of how this thing measures.

Best wishes

nuff

Hi Nuff,

no, I do understand. You were raving about this whole thing being a hoax and you were using much worse words before I remember to having read for the first time after you have been asked for that you said that you don't like the sound of this eq. Tainted you said AFAIR. If you would read again you'd see that I wrote that I don't try to make you trust in my ears but rather use your own. I do trust my ears more than any numbers and your ears of course.

And when you don't have any interest in anybodies opinion about making noise with a computer: What are you doing here? Now you made me really curious ...
After all KvR is very little about measured numbers.


Best wishes, FRitz

[nuffink]

And when you don't have any interest in anybodies opinion about making noise with a computer: What are you doing here? Now you made me really curious ...
After all KvR is very little about measured numbers.

Hi Fritz,

Again. I'm well aware of your position, it's difficult to miss. You're absolutely right about k-v-r being a desert for objectivty. So when it does occaisionaly raise it's head could you refrain from attempting to shout it down. Some of us are interested.
Thank you.
As for what I'm doing at k-v-r (aside from gleaning the few facts which do pop up from the background noise) well, it's a broad church. There are other reasons than venting ones subjective opinions.

All the best

nuff

[fritzman]

hey nuff,

it's interesting that you tell me that I'm shouting down objectivity. I'll stop here.

This is pointless, but that was obvious earlier.


Best wishes, FRitz

[bmanic]

Hi Fritz,

Again. I'm well aware of your position, it's difficult to miss. You're absolutely right about k-v-r being a desert for objectivty. So when it does occaisionaly raise it's head could you refrain from attempting to shout it down. Some of us are interested.
Thank you.
As for what I'm doing at k-v-r (aside from gleaning the few facts which do pop up from the background noise) well, it's a broad church. There are other reasons than venting ones subjective opinions.

All the best

nuff

.. like putting other people down, post after post after post? I really do not understand your on-going negativity. Let's chill now and get back to topic shall we?

- bManic

[bmanic]

This is pointless, but that was obvious earlier.

Indeed.

Cheers!
bManic

[DuX]

".. like putting other people down, post after post after post? I really do not understand your on-going negativity. Let's chill now and get back to topic shall we?"

Excellent idea .

Cheers!

[nuffink]

Hi Fritz,

Again. I'm well aware of your position, it's difficult to miss. You're absolutely right about k-v-r being a desert for objectivty. So when it does occaisionaly raise it's head could you refrain from attempting to shout it down. Some of us are interested.
Thank you.
As for what I'm doing at k-v-r (aside from gleaning the few facts which do pop up from the background noise) well, it's a broad church. There are other reasons than venting ones subjective opinions.

All the best

nuff

.. like putting other people down, post after post after post? I really do not understand your on-going negativity. Let's chill now and get back to topic shall we?

- bManic

Hi bManic,

I'm not sure where I've put you down, but you obviously feel quite strongly about this so accept my apology for whatever slight you may have perceived.

All the best

nuff

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